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Is the Best Defense a Good Offense?

Yes.

When someone or something is attacking you, the number one way to stop the attack, is to incompasitate your attacker. Which requires offensive action.

Displaying your ability to incompasitate is a deterrent from attacked in the first place. The evidence that nature provides for this is abundant and irrefutable.
 
jet57 said:
The typical "I have nothing credible or constructive to say about the argument I'm faced with, so I'll insert a stupid picture that makes me look tough.

That'll get'em".
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Says it for me. You don't have an "argument"
 
Grand Mal said:
Both. Basic safe handling and storage and transport and basic laws. Could be an oral test. I don't say you need to take a course, you could challenge the test.
Come to think of it, I'm surprised liability insurers don't require it.
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What liability insurers?
 
zsu2357 said:
Should this also apply to the 1st Amendment as well? After all you need to be safe transporting those pens and typewriters. Maybe take a test before hand? Or challenge the fact that you are able to get it in the car.
Why is the Second Amendment also treated like the redheaded stepchild? After all the First can kill just as effectively as the Second.
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Not like your second rights haven't been compromised already. There's a list of people who aren't entitled to own guns so keep your condescending crap about safely transporting pens out of my face. Your redheaded stepchild is no virgin. Why does a dishonourable discharge disqualify your 'natural' rights under the second amendment?
 
Rucker61 said:
What liability insurers?
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Homeowners insurance. The liability section. I don't have any insurance so I don't know, but do they ask about weapons when they write you up? I mean, if your kid gets access to an improperly stored gun and shoots another kid in the foot and the other kid's parents sue, does your insurance cover your liability?
 
jet57 said:
The typical "I have nothing credible or constructive to say about the argument I'm faced with, so I'll insert a stupid picture that makes me look tough.

That'll get'em".
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what have you ever contributed on the gun issue that is constructive?

1) that an AR 15 is a "weapon of war" but an MI carbine is not

2) that any magazine that holds ten rounds or more is ONLY FOR WARFARE

3) that any firearm that was designed for "WARFARE" should be banned
 
jet57 said:
We don't know yet what model it was do we. Your definition of an assault rifle is rather subjective given we've had a federal ban on them.

The problem is, people have prejudicial views of what constitutes ongoing fluid news reports on active shootings.
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And that "ban" amounted to nothing more than pandering to those such as yourself that have a limited understanding of the subject.
 
Grand Mal said:
Homeowners insurance. The liability section. I don't have any insurance so I don't know, but do they ask about weapons when they write you up? I mean, if your kid gets access to an improperly stored gun and shoots another kid in the foot and the other kid's parents sue, does your insurance cover your liability?
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No, my homeowners insurance did not have any questions on gun ownership, because insurance works on risk and the risk is very, very low.
 
sanman said:
Liberals view guns as offensive weapons to enable offenses, while Conservatives see guns as defensive weapons to enable defense.

A gun innately isn't like a shield (a purely defensive weapon) - it's more like a sword (an offensive weapon). Ironically, its utility in defense is due to its utility in offense.

Does the principle of weapons of personal defense then justify their enhanced risk from their offensive potential?
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Every house in America has in it poisons, knives, hammers, blunt instruments, rope, etc. But yet, the number of homicides and suicides by those means is negligible. What's not negligible? That there are annually roughly 12,000 gun homicides and 20,000 gun suicides in America.

Translation: Guns seem to matter when killing people. So, it's very much worthwhile to argue against them.
 
sanman said:
Liberals view guns as offensive weapons to enable offenses, while Conservatives see guns as defensive weapons to enable defense.

A gun innately isn't like a shield (a purely defensive weapon) - it's more like a sword (an offensive weapon). Ironically, its utility in defense is due to its utility in offense.

Does the principle of weapons of personal defense then justify their enhanced risk from their offensive potential?
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Weapons are neither offensive nor defensive. Their purpose is from the user. This is a human question.
 
calamity said:
Every house in America has in it poisons, knives, hammers, blunt instruments, rope, etc. But yet, the number of homicides and suicides by those means is negligible. What's not negligible? That there are annually roughly 12,000 gun homicides and 20,000 gun suicides in America.
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According to CDC there were 12,000 hanging/suffocation suicides in 2015.
 
calamity said:
Still far short of the 20,000 gun suicides.
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For now. Since 2000, according to CDC, the suicide rate by firearm has increased by about 10%. For hanging/suffocation, the rate has increased 85%.

What's your proposal to address gun suicide? What's your proposal to address rope suicide?

Are those 12k rope suicides still negligible?
 
Rucker61 said:
For now. Since 2000, according to CDC, the suicide rate by firearm has increased by about 10%. For hanging/suffocation, the rate has increased 85%.

What's your proposal to address gun suicide? What's your proposal to address rope suicide?
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Not sure I care all that much about suicide. I sort of support it.

Are those 12k rope suicides still negligible?
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I guess not. I wasn't aware of the rapid rise in hangings.
 
=jet57;1067314982]We don't know yet what model it was do we. Your definition of an assault rifle is rather subjective given we've had a federal ban on them.
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Did you even look at the link?My definition of an assault rifle sure isn't an SKS.
The problem is, people have prejudicial views of what constitutes ongoing fluid news reports on active shootings.
And people have these "prejudicial views"because they never question anything,they are content to listen to what they are told.
 
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