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What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

SCitizen said:
I ride in cars -- but being an Aspie I do not drive.
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well I am not a doctor in medicine and I am in no position to tell you what to do but those two sufferers I know both drive and shoot and seem to do ok with the driving and are excellent shooters
 
SCitizen said:
Motorcycles, tobacco, and guns.
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how many peoples' lives are you willing to sacrifice to ban all guns? I prefer making gun banners irrelevant and pariahs in a free society-people to be laughed at and shunned by intelligent folk
 
SCitizen said:
Many people do not realize that putting one's life in unreasonable unnecessary danger is a very bad decision.
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So what? What good is life if you're always going the safe boring route?
 
Josie said:
That's it? Everything else on earth is safe?
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yeah heroin, base jumping, speed boats, "bareback bath house sex" etc are all far safer than guns or Harleys
 
SCitizen said:
Guns are used in 11,000 murders and 19,000 suicides a year in USA alone.

How can anyone deny that human life has paramount value?
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If human life has paramount value then I have the paramount right to defend by the most efficient means available.


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Diet related diseases are the number one killer. If the authoritarians were really so concerned about life they would be demanding sweeping dietary laws.


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natsb said:
Aaaand... You dodge the question again. We can't talk about critical thought, lying, and questioning until you actually answer the question.

Will the crime rate drop if guns disappeared? Or will it go up just like in every country that has banned them?
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Guns' disappearing and being banned are not the same thing. For example, Singapore vs. Mexico. In both nations private ownership of guns is severely restricted, but one has spectacularly low murder rates and the other has murder rates much higher than ours.
 
SCitizen said:
Many people do not realize that putting one's life in unreasonable unnecessary danger is a very bad decision.
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Define unreasonable and unnecessary danger.


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Phys251 said:
Guns' disappearing and being banned are not the same thing. For example, Singapore vs. Mexico. In both nations private ownership of guns is severely restricted, but one has spectacularly low murder rates and the other has murder rates much higher than ours.
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I think we are about to set a DP record for question dodging.

With guns banned in the US, would crime rates drop?
 
What if getting rid of cars got rid of auto accidents?

What if getting rid of booze got rid of drunken brawls?

What if getting rid of cigarettes got rid of lung cancer?

What if getting rid of bacon got rid of obesity?


The society in demolition man might be some peoples idea of a good time. But it's not mine.
 
natsb said:
I think we are about to set a DP record for question dodging.

With guns banned in the US, would crime rates drop?
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Crimes wouldn't drop, but the number of fatalities resulting from crime would. But it doesn't matter.
 
What if banning drugs DID mean an end to illegal drugs? Wouldnt you be for that?

What if banning free speech did ensure no ones feelings would ever be hurt?

Since so much of our court and prison (and violence) problems relate to drugs, what if we just allowed the police to attack criminals by any means necessary/ I mean...you shouldnt have anything to fear...unless you were a criminal.

What if we abandoned the Constitution entirely and allowed the nations intel agencies to spy on every US citizen...just to keep everyone safe?
 
SCitizen said:
Not a bad idea.
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Yep. And get rid marijuana, alcohol, candy, cake, ice cream, soda, etc.

Get rid of motor cycles, sports cars, and merry go rounds. And monkey bars.
 
And let's not forget, the number one killer in all of history....religion and money.


Gotta get rid of both of those, they both kill more people every year than guns have since they were invented.
 
JLee1977 said:
Society will never be able to legislate away homicidal intentions!
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That is how they are doing it in Oregon. Here the people don't get a say.Or a vote. It is left up to a stacked Rules Committee then goes to the senate(stacked)then the house (stacked).
 
zsu2357 said:
That is how they are doing it in Oregon. Here the people don't get a say.Or a vote. It is left up to a stacked Rules Committee then goes to the senate(stacked)then the house (stacked).
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Again how is a law going to dissuade a person choice to commit murder?
 
SCitizen said:
Most other dangerous things like drugs are illegal already.
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Reminds me,how is that "war on drugs" working out? And if the politicians war on guns work out it will only work out for the terrorists.Ask France.
 
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