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    Re: What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Yep. And get rid marijuana, alcohol, candy, cake, ice cream, soda, etc.

    Get rid of motor cycles, sports cars, and merry go rounds. And monkey bars.
    But let us not forget about five gallon buckets,swimming pools (pretty much any size)and all chemicals under the sink or in the garage. Probably ought to get rid of the family dog to in case it gets rabies.
    Why hell we would be living in the land of fluffy kittens and unicorn farts.Such bliss.

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    Re: What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

    Quote Originally Posted by JLee1977 View Post
    Again how is a law going to dissuade a person choice to commit murder?
    The $64.00 question! If you ever do find out you'll be $64.00 richer, lol.
    Any bets if an anti gunner can answer that one? Or if it will be dodged?

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    Re: What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

    Quote Originally Posted by JLee1977 View Post
    Again how is a law going to dissuade a person choice to commit murder?
    ask anyone who deals with criminals and they will tell you that if say a capital murder charge or life in prison won't deter someone, then a lesser sentence for a preliminary and related crime less serious than murder, will be worthless in deterrence as well.
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    , as long as you can own one or fewer guns, your right to bear a firearm is not being infringed upon.

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    Re: What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

    Quote Originally Posted by JLee1977 View Post
    Society will never be able to legislate away homicidal intentions!
    You are correct. Unless, we remove all items that can harm another. Including fists.

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    Re: What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

    I find it disappointing and somewhat curious also that those who defend "gun rights" most often do so by reverting to the Second Amendment of self defense, neither of which are the true basis for gun ownership or ownership of anything else. It is my opinion that gun ownership is rooted in the fundamental principle of self determination the most important principle that founded this nation and should be the core principle of all societies. No person or government should ever dictate what another person should own or not.
    As for human lives, yes they are important, but reality is that far more lives can be saved at far lesser expense, both financially and freedom wise, than restricting guns and the best reduction of crime is accomplished by reducing or removing the reasons for it in the first place.
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    Re: What if getting rid of the 2nd did reduce gun crime

    Quote Originally Posted by whateverdude View Post
    I don't debate whether or not the 2nd ammendment kills more people than it protects.
    Becuase I support it anyway.

    Even if liberals are right and banning guns will reduce gun crime, I don't care.

    i would rather live in a place with more violence + the ability to defend oneself, rather than less violence - the ability to defend yourself.

    Because if there is a violent situation in a peaceful area with no guns, people are ****ed. If you're an old lady and someone robs your home, you have no defense if someone is gonna rape or kill you, and they can do it with their bare hands.

    So even if the liberals are right, and getting rid of the second ammendment would reduce gun violence, I still would not side with them.

    In fact a magic wizard could ressurect the kids from Sandy Hook in exchange for banning all assualt weapons, I still would not oppose an assault weapon ban. If I could go back in time, ban assault weapons, and prevent Sandy Hook. I wouldn't
    Getting rid of the 2nd amendment might lower gun crime.But crime involving other weapons and other means would jump up.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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