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Massachusetts gun shop hit with $35K in fines and fees for selling Glocks

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Massachusetts gun shop hit with $35K in fines and fees for selling Glocks

I need to do a little more looking around at this but if the article is right the store was fined for not insuring that guns sold to law enforcement were used for duty related purposes, not providing warnings to purchasers of short barrelled handguns and for selling Glock pistols.

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Well there you go. One of the links in the article has a bunch of stuff on Mass. gun regulations and, sure as heck, on page 8 of the PDF it shows a 2004 AG advisory specifically stating that the sale of Glock pistols is illegal in Massachusetts.

For those that are all about "common sense" gun laws, I suggest that you read the guidelines in that PDF. That's what "common sense" seems to be all about and it will give you a tremendous primer on why so many of us are opposed to such laws.
 
Lutherf said:
Massachusetts gun shop hit with $35K in fines and fees for selling Glocks

I need to do a little more looking around at this but if the article is right the store was fined for not insuring that guns sold to law enforcement were used for duty related purposes, not providing warnings to purchasers of short barrelled handguns and for selling Glock pistols.

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Well there you go. One of the links in the article has a bunch of stuff on Mass. gun regulations and, sure as heck, on page 8 of the PDF it shows a 2004 AG advisory specifically stating that the sale of Glock pistols is illegal in Massachusetts. For those that are all about "common sense" gun laws, I suggest that you read the guidelines in that PDF. That's what "common sense" seems to be all about and it will give you a tremendous primer on why so many of us are opposed to such laws.
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Why ?
 
Lutherf said:
Massachusetts gun shop hit with $35K in fines and fees for selling Glocks

I need to do a little more looking around at this but if the article is right the store was fined for not insuring that guns sold to law enforcement were used for duty related purposes, not providing warnings to purchasers of short barrelled handguns and for selling Glock pistols.

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Well there you go. One of the links in the article has a bunch of stuff on Mass. gun regulations and, sure as heck, on page 8 of the PDF it shows a 2004 AG advisory specifically stating that the sale of Glock pistols is illegal in Massachusetts.

For those that are all about "common sense" gun laws, I suggest that you read the guidelines in that PDF. That's what "common sense" seems to be all about and it will give you a tremendous primer on why so many of us are opposed to such laws.
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"As noted by the Worcester Telegram, over a one-year period beginning in July 2014, the Gun Parlor sold nine Glocks that did not meet the Commonwealth’s handgun safety regulations. Further, between 2013 and 2015 the store sold four guns not on the approved roster."

"For those wondering about the "Short barreled handgun" comment in the article: MA law requires disclosure of accuracy results at specified distances for handguns with barrels of three inches or less."

Wow.
 
American said:
Why ?
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Apparently all semi-auto handguns in MA must have a load indicator and/or a magazine disconnect. Since a Glock has neither it has been deemed unsafe to sell in MA.
 
Lutherf said:
Massachusetts gun shop hit with $35K in fines and fees for selling Glocks

I need to do a little more looking around at this but if the article is right the store was fined for not insuring that guns sold to law enforcement were used for duty related purposes, not providing warnings to purchasers of short barrelled handguns and for selling Glock pistols.

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Well there you go. One of the links in the article has a bunch of stuff on Mass. gun regulations and, sure as heck, on page 8 of the PDF it shows a 2004 AG advisory specifically stating that the sale of Glock pistols is illegal in Massachusetts.

For those that are all about "common sense" gun laws, I suggest that you read the guidelines in that PDF. That's what "common sense" seems to be all about and it will give you a tremendous primer on why so many of us are opposed to such laws.
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any firearm that is routinely issued to civilian law enforcement agents should be easily available to other civilians throughout the Republic.
 
TurtleDude said:
any firearm that is routinely issued to civilian law enforcement agents should be easily available to other civilians throughout the Republic.
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According to the charges in the .pdf, civilian law enforcement agents can't even legally purchase the firearm they would be routinely issued if it's for non-work use.
 
Rucker61 said:
According to the charges in the .pdf, civilian law enforcement agents can't even legally purchase the firearm they would be routinely issued if it's for non-work use.
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that's what happens when Bannerrhoid assholes get into office
 
Lutherf said:
Apparently all semi-auto handguns in MA must have a load indicator and/or a magazine disconnect. Since a Glock has neither it has been deemed unsafe to sell in MA.
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load indicators are worthless and most cannot help you in the middle of the night and while MD safeties have their uses, the military specifically requires their contract firearms cannot have them
 
Lutherf said:
Massachusetts gun shop hit with $35K in fines and fees for selling Glocks

I need to do a little more looking around at this but if the article is right the store was fined for not insuring that guns sold to law enforcement were used for duty related purposes, not providing warnings to purchasers of short barrelled handguns and for selling Glock pistols.

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Well there you go. One of the links in the article has a bunch of stuff on Mass. gun regulations and, sure as heck, on page 8 of the PDF it shows a 2004 AG advisory specifically stating that the sale of Glock pistols is illegal in Massachusetts.

For those that are all about "common sense" gun laws, I suggest that you read the guidelines in that PDF. That's what "common sense" seems to be all about and it will give you a tremendous primer on why so many of us are opposed to such laws.
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Why the hell would they be against Glocks specifically, mine do not perform any function that my other brands of firearms do? Oh wait, we are talking about Massachusetts, not much different from California, a case of mass stupidity.
 
Lutherf said:
Apparently all semi-auto handguns in MA must have a load indicator and/or a magazine disconnect. Since a Glock has neither it has been deemed unsafe to sell in MA.
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What, yes they do. There is a small lever type extension that sticks out slightly when there is a round chambered and the mag disconnect button works fine. I must be missing something when it comes to those terms. Not sure how either has anything to do with use of the firearm. So in Mass they do not trust their LEO's to own a service weapon? Some seems confused since a LEO is a LEO 24/7/365, if they cannot trust them then the problem is far more than a firearm issue. The strange thing is that anyone bothers to sell firearms in some states and cities, just leave and take the business with them.
 
The mag disconnect will not allow a gun to fire if a mag is not in the gun.


I think the indicator isn't considered adequate. Pretty sure they require it to be coloured for easy visualization
 
TurtleDude said:
"no one wants to ban guns" we need to have Trump Justices start subjecting such idiocy to the "auto de fay"
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How about caning on the Supreme Court steps?
 
Casper said:
So in Mass they do not trust their LEO's to own a service weapon?
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In fairness we don't allow our military to take home their service weapons at the end of the day.

But I think this law was crafted to look real tough on guns but it mostly meaningless fluff.
 
American said:
Well that page doesn't really explain the problems resulting from the compliance laws of MA.
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I believe that it's just an incomplete listing.
 
American said:
How about caning on the Supreme Court steps?
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you know, that would be a good punishment to local and state politicians who piss on the rights of the people. there was something to be said for tarring and feathering back in the old days! I think PETA would object to the feathers though
 
TurtleDude said:
you know, that would be a good punishment to local and state politicians who piss on the rights of the people. there was something to be said for tarring and feathering back in the old days! I think PETA would object to the feathers though
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Okay we can substitute this....

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...it's artificial.
 
American said:
Okay we can substitute this....

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...it's artificial.
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i was thinking fiberglas insulation would be a suitable replacement for feathers!!
 
Chillfolks said:
The mag disconnect will not allow a gun to fire if a mag is not in the gun.


I think the indicator isn't considered adequate. Pretty sure they require it to be coloured for easy visualization
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So what ever happened to the idea that you consider all guns loaded all the time until definitively shown otherwise? Do people not that rule these days so that they need a visual indicator that there's a round in the chamber? An indicator that I, fwiw, would never trust in any case and still assume the gun was ready to fire even if the stupid indicator said otherwise.

Or - more likely - is this MA throwing up any conceivable roadblock like my own wonderful state of NY.
 
Selling Glocks is a crime when a perfectly suitable alternative (M&P) goes for hundreds less. Buy amurrican...
 
Chillfolks said:
In fairness we don't allow our military to take home their service weapons at the end of the day.

But I think this law was crafted to look real tough on guns but it mostly meaningless fluff.
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Within the US, most of the time, yes.

I think it was a law crafted by Idiots.
 
grip said:
Selling Glocks is a crime when a perfectly suitable alternative (M&P) goes for hundreds less. Buy amurrican...
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50 or so less but you can buy GLOCK Gen IIIs for about the same price

Personally i prefer the smiths even though I am a member of the Glock SSF 500 Club
 
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