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Hollywood gun hypocrisy: Skyrocketing violence on screen...

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The NRA and the entertainment industry interact publicly as mortal enemies. But as the number of weapons shown in movies and TV steadily increases — and stars like Matt Damon and Angelina Jolie make fortunes wielding guns onscreen — a co-dependence that keeps both churning is revealed: “making the liberal bias a lot of money”


BURNISHED BY THE LOW LIGHT OF GLASS-WALLED DISPLAYS, THEY seem like ancient artifacts, but the objects here are beloved contemporary icons. One case houses the massive Smith & Wesson Colt .44 wielded by Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" Callahan in the 1973 film Magnum Force. In another rests the Beretta 92F used by Bruce Willis in Die Hard. All the great shoot-'em-up classics — The Bourne Identity, Pulp Fiction, The Wild Bunch — are here. This exhibit, celebrating cinema, isn't in Hollywood; it's thousands of miles away, a museum at the headquarters of the National Rifle Association in Fairfax, Va.

http://features.hollywoodreporter.com/the-gun-industrys-lucrative-relationship-with-hollywood/


I've often sent emails to Hollywood producers and actors, who's rhetoric is anti-gun and condemn the NRA and legitimate gun owners across this nation, but have no qualms about using more and more guns in films. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
 
"the massive Smith & Wesson Colt .44"?

What the hell is a S&W Colt?
 
Welcome to Hollywood. Do as we say... not as we do.

They use more and more guns in film, still have wild variation in paying men vs. women, claim anything over a size 4 for an actress is "obese," and generally are a textbook example of getting somewhere based on who you know and not what you can do.

Just calling them hypocrites is being nice about it.
 
"the massive Smith & Wesson Colt .44"?

What the hell is a S&W Colt?

well there is a Smith and Wesson N frame in 45 Long Colt.
 
"the massive Smith & Wesson Colt .44"?

What the hell is a S&W Colt?

Ignorance by those who are uneducated in firarms, yet attempt to write narratives like this one.
 
Welcome to Hollywood. Do as we say... not as we do.

They use more and more guns in film, still have wild variation in paying men vs. women, claim anything over a size 4 for an actress is "obese," and generally are a textbook example of getting somewhere based on who you know and not what you can do.

Just calling them hypocrites is being nice about it.

Got that right.
 
But that's not Harry's ...

true-and in one movie he noted he shot 44 Special out of the Model 29 (44 SW Mag)

I have one of those revolvers-I client gave it to me 29 years ago. Maybe the best looking handgun I own. I don't think I have shot it in 27 years or so
 
Ever fire one of those? It really is a hand cannon.

yeah with full tilt 44 mags its a handful. But its nothing like one of the light scandia framed Smiths in such calibers or the big 460 and 500 jobs that have eclipsed the 44 mag. same with the wildcat cartridges out of break barrel single shot rigs that can be 7mm rifle rounds

as a deer or hog pistol, the 44 is pretty good. Its too light for bear and too heavy for self defense

for pure firepower, my choice would be a GLOCK 20 in 10MM mainly due to ease of shooting, number of rounds available etc
 
Ever fire one of those? It really is a hand cannon.

Yes it is. I've shot every modern handgun S&W has ever made and some oldies as well.

For those of us who reload, lighter loads can be had to reduce the felt recoil and sound. Reduced handgun loads were used in the Dirty Harry movies. A person can also use .44 Specials, in the magnums, which are very pleasant to shoot.

Sidenote: We can also reload them to be even hotter than factory ammo. I developed one load that puts out a foot of flame from the barrel and approximately 3 inches of flame on either side of the cylinder.
I don't really recommend that kind of diet for the S&Ws and would rather use it in a Ruger Redhawk or Super Redhawk. Neither do I relish punishing the gun or myself, so I only made up a few and they just sit in a box in the vault.
 
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There is also a pair of S&W N Frames(models 25 and 625), chambered in .45ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol)

yeah I have a 625 that I bought of Revolver Pin competition and USPSA. I had the 25, I believe 25-2 was 45 AC and 25-1 was 45 LC but I traded that to a guy for work on our horses (he's a master ferrier/blacksmith)

for some reason I could never get the trigger pulls as smooth and light in the N frames as I could get in the K or L (686) frames
 
yeah with full tilt 44 mags its a handful. But its nothing like one of the light scandia framed Smiths in such calibers

A buddy has one of these, and rarely shot it for just that reason. He's not really a gun guy and was happy when I introduced him to .44 Specials. We compared it with 240 gr JHP to my Ruger 3" SP101 shooting Buffalo Bore 180 hard cast rounds. The Ruger kicked a bit more.
 
The NRA and the entertainment industry interact publicly as mortal enemies. But as the number of weapons shown in movies and TV steadily increases — and stars like Matt Damon and Angelina Jolie make fortunes wielding guns onscreen — a co-dependence that keeps both churning is revealed: “making the liberal bias a lot of money”


BURNISHED BY THE LOW LIGHT OF GLASS-WALLED DISPLAYS, THEY seem like ancient artifacts, but the objects here are beloved contemporary icons. One case houses the massive Smith & Wesson Colt .44 wielded by Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" Callahan in the 1973 film Magnum Force. In another rests the Beretta 92F used by Bruce Willis in Die Hard. All the great shoot-'em-up classics — The Bourne Identity, Pulp Fiction, The Wild Bunch — are here. This exhibit, celebrating cinema, isn't in Hollywood; it's thousands of miles away, a museum at the headquarters of the National Rifle Association in Fairfax, Va.

http://features.hollywoodreporter.com/the-gun-industrys-lucrative-relationship-with-hollywood/


I've often sent emails to Hollywood producers and actors, who's rhetoric is anti-gun and condemn the NRA and legitimate gun owners across this nation, but have no qualms about using more and more guns in films. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Huh. What do you know? You lied, outright, in your title. Gun violence on screen isn't 'skyrocketing', nor does your link demonstrate that.
 
But Turtle did indeed catch that they both were 'N' frames.

Of course he did, he knows his stuff. :lol:

yeah with full tilt 44 mags its a handful. But its nothing like one of the light scandia framed Smiths in such calibers or the big 460 and 500 jobs that have eclipsed the 44 mag. same with the wildcat cartridges out of break barrel single shot rigs that can be 7mm rifle rounds

as a deer or hog pistol, the 44 is pretty good. Its too light for bear and too heavy for self defense

for pure firepower, my choice would be a GLOCK 20 in 10MM mainly due to ease of shooting, number of rounds available etc

I ran some penetration tests for my department years ago, when some of the deputies requested to be allowed to carry the Glock 20 instead of the 17 and 22. The results indicated that the 10mm was close in power to a .357 Magnum and penetrated about the same distance, into a constant medium with nearly identical expansion. My recommendation was that if they were man enough to handle the extra recoil and achieved decent scores when I conducted range sessions , I would certify them. Only three followed through with their personal purchase .........and my training. None of those were female. My biggest concern was accuracy and to prevent over penetration, through that accuracy in shot placement. I stressed that repeatedly in training.

My thoughts on the .460 and .500 handguns is this......I'd rather just grab a shotgun or rifle.
 

yeah the gun violence seems to be more graphic than the days of say PATTON or A Bridge too Far

but the main point is this-the people making big $$$ off of glorifying gun violence are often gun banners personally. those included Jack Lord (the original Hawaii 5-0) to modern day gun haters like Sigourney Weaver, Brad Pitt, Kevin Bacon and Sylvester "rambo" stallone
 
yeah the gun violence seems to be more graphic than the days of say PATTON or A Bridge too Far

but the main point is this-the people making big $$$ off of glorifying gun violence are often gun banners personally. those included Jack Lord (the original Hawaii 5-0) to modern day gun haters like Sigourney Weaver, Brad Pitt, Kevin Bacon and Sylvester "rambo" stallone

Totally agreed. I was responding to the claim that the OP was lying. Evidently liberal sources like CNN and Psych Today agree with the OP.
 
Huh. What do you know? You lied, outright, in your title. Gun violence on screen isn't 'skyrocketing', nor does your link demonstrate that.

Post #13 covers that. It's not a lie at all.

Why don't you just address the topic, as written, instead of going out of your way to bash me every time I post anything?

And why do you feel the need to defend Hollywood?
 
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true-and in one movie he noted he shot 44 Special out of the Model 29 (44 SW Mag)

I have one of those revolvers-I client gave it to me 29 years ago. Maybe the best looking handgun I own. I don't think I have shot it in 27 years or so
After firing a 44 mag, I can fully appreciate the desire to load 44 Specials!

In the years following the movie, the prices and the run on 44 mag model 29's was astronomical! They were priced well over retail by me, and pushing a grand ca. 1980. And that's in 1980 dollars!

A lot of goofy guys were taking gun naive petite g/f's to ranges, and putting one in their hands to get a reaction. And it was effective. I saw a noob girl that fired a 44 mag model 29 after only squeezing-off two rounds of standard 38 Specials just prior.

After a huge "Bam!", a blast pattern maybe a yard wide from flames & gases escaping the sides of the cylinder, and enough smoke to engulf her entire stall, she on-the-spot decided she didn't like guns. Thank God she held on!

There's a reason God gave us 22's ...
 
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