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The Clinton Gun control agenda

Dragonfly said:
Yeah...I listened to 8 friggin years of how Obama was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment, all the while watching gun sales in the USofA hit record levels every month.

Don't look now, the sky is falling, and the wolf is coming.

The gun industry and all it's supporting businesses should all be campaigning for, and voting for 4 more years of democratic rule.
They've reaped the highest profits of any business in the USofA thanks to all the FEAR people like you enjoy spreading around.
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Nobody said firearm organisations were blessed with intelligence. In fact everything they do points to the opposite.

How many times have you heard "It is not about guns, it is about control" Apparently not enough because you still have not figured it out.

No problem George Soros and his backers spend billions on gun control each year financing advocacy, research, events, interventions, promotions, media releases, websites, salaries, organisations just so gun makers can gain extra profits.

Which organisation do you know that will waste billions every year on making gun makers rich? If it is not being wasted what is it being used for?
 
matchlight said:
Heller was a 5-4 decision, and Justice Scalia is no longer with us. A new Court, with one or two more justices like Kagan or Sotomayor, could eviscerate the Second Amendment simply by adopting the views Justice Stevens took in his dissenting opinion in Heller. If it did, there would no longer be any individual right to keep and bear arms. But most of the people I have seen shriek that concern about this is fearmongering by gun-hugging mouthbreathers have never read any part of Heller, and probably could not understand it if they tried. It's ironic that so many pseudo-liberals love to prattle that conservatives are stupid and ignorant.
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The only lever more powerful than government over the supreme court or any court is public opinion. It controls government a well.

When I say firearm organisations are stupid I mean it because there is a relationship that it tried proven and tested. When stupid people ignore it in preference to old wives tales superstition and ignorance taught in schools to the detriment of the safety of the public at large but more importantly their own members rights what are they? Clever? Intelligent? Or just could not care.
 
Thorgasm said:
I've heard this my whole life.
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There are always the alarm ringers and while they may be factually wrong their sense of impending doom is seldom wrong. Naturally the world history is full of such events and these may be studied in all the countries where genocides have taken place. Nobody want to study the common factors or learn from them.

It's not difficult to tell. When government is more interested in creating dependence than solving social problems. When government is corrupt and lies to increase power and control. When the propaganda of fear and hatred becomes apparent. It would be a good idea to keep your options of seeking alternative residency open. All may be avoided by simply doing the duty the founders expected. Keep the damn government honest and working for the good of the people. Object and kick out your employees who have different ideas.
 
countryboy said:
I often wonder if lefties even believe some of the stupid **** they say. I am convinced many do not.
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Ignorant amateur gun banners or those who agree with the bannerrhoid movement's agenda probably do. The leaders of the movement and people like Obama and Shrillary do not
 
roughdraft274 said:
There is no might TD. He will buckle to anything and everything if given pressure. And he won't just buckle, he'll start actively supporting stuff like an assault weapon ban or universal back ground checks, longer waiting periods, no fly list exclusions etc and he'll even get those red neck hill billy cousin ****ers that come to his rallies to agree with him that's it's needed. He has a much better chance of getting gun control passed than Hillary, if not for the fact that he's getting his ass kicked every which way in the election.
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you don't know that because Trump has not been in office. WE can assume Hillary will because we know how she has operated in the WH before, the senate and as SOS and she has been awful.

So you are just making stuff up. BTW who is favored to win in La? I haven't been paying attention
 
Obama could have passed significant national gun control laws had he not used all his political capital up on his healthcare plan. He called in a favors he had, promised some in the future, and twisted every arm he could to get his one party bill passed. It didn't help that he had to lie about keeping your doctor or it's rocky roll out. The majority of people did not like the bill. He just didn't have the political power to pass another unpopular piece of legislation. Once the midterms happened and Obama didn't have his one party yes men any chance if gun control vanished.

If hillary uses her political capital out the gate like Obama she can get gun control passed. I don't see her doing this because it will interfere with her corrupt money making scheme.
 
She's gonna get assassinated. No way someone can be both that arrogant that powerful and survive this. No. Way.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
She's gonna get assassinated. No way someone can be both that arrogant that powerful and survive this. No. Way.
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Adolf hitler

Charles de Gaulle

Alexander the Great....

Islam karimov

Teddy Roosevelt

Fraklin roosevelt

Richard Nixon

Gerald Ford


I can think of more examples
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Adolf hitler

Charles de Gaulle

Alexander the Great....

Islam karimov

Teddy Roosevelt

Fraklin roosevelt

Richard Nixon

Gerald Ford


I can think of more examples
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Nice, I finally got you to compare Hillary to Adolf Hitler. You're improving.

:thumbs:
 
Chillfolks said:
Obama could have passed significant national gun control laws had he not used all his political capital up on his healthcare plan. He called in a favors he had, promised some in the future, and twisted every arm he could to get his one party bill passed. It didn't help that he had to lie about keeping your doctor or it's rocky roll out. The majority of people did not like the bill. He just didn't have the political power to pass another unpopular piece of legislation. Once the midterms happened and Obama didn't have his one party yes men any chance if gun control vanished.

If hillary uses her political capital out the gate like Obama she can get gun control passed. I don't see her doing this because it will interfere with her corrupt money making scheme.
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Hillary isn't a moron. she knows what happened to her husband in 94. Their party took an ass whipping in the midterms-mainly due to their moronic federal gun ban. She's rather let her minions in state offices screw over gun owners in Democrat run states and have her judges pretend that such screw jobs don't violate McDonald v Chicago. when she gets a bunch of BS decisions from her pet jurists in gun hater states, she will try to get a national one passed if she is around for a second term.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Adolf hitler

Charles de Gaulle

Alexander the Great....

Islam karimov

Teddy Roosevelt

Fraklin roosevelt

Richard Nixon

Gerald Ford


I can think of more examples
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Hitler-they tried

De Gaulle-they tried

Alexander-died early-he was loved by his people

Islam-not really familiar enough

Teddy Roosevelt-again pretty popular

FDR-war time president-pretty popular

Nixon? resigned in disgrace

Ford-WTF????


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OK I saw your later post that makes more sense.

Did someone try to whack Nixon? or FDR?

Ford yeah-first that Manson nut case Squeaky Frome and then Sarah Jane Moore iirc
 
BTW its rather stupid and disgusting even hinting or speculating about an assassination of anyone running for office

who the hell knows who is going to win or how they will turn out
 
apdst said:
The President can't make law. Any executive order infringing upon our civil rights can be ignored.
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And they are already being ignored....so are the state laws.

apdst said:
If Clinton loads up The Supreme Court with Liberal justices to make unconstitutional rulings, then there is most certainly something to worry about.
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Sure would be..

Dragonfly said:
Yeah...I listened to 8 friggin years of how Obama was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment, all the while watching gun sales in the USofA hit record levels every month.

Don't look now, the sky is falling, and the wolf is coming.

The gun industry and all it's supporting businesses should all be campaigning for, and voting for 4 more years of democratic rule.
They've reaped the highest profits of any business in the USofA thanks to all the FEAR people like you enjoy spreading around.
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Long live the gun ............and the Freedom to own and use them! ;)

Every law abiding person, should be able to own as many guns and as much ammo as they can afford.
 
roughdraft274 said:
I hope you understand that if Trump is elected, as soon as their is a mass shooting under his presidency he will succumb to the pressure and support any and all gun control that he is told to support. He'll buckle like a little bitch. Just like he was in favor of Iraq right up until it became unpopular, he supported the assault weapons ban right up until he ran as a republican, he advocated deporting every illegal immigrant until someone told him that this would be mean to which he resorted to "well we can't just kick them all out thats very harsh" etc.

And all of this "Hillary will try to do it by executive order!" is a bunch of bull**** and you know it. If Obama wouldn't even do it by executive order as a lame duck why on earth would Hillary try it.
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Because she is far more Evil than obama........and will do anything she can get away with. She already did it with the email server and the emails. Wikileaks just confirmed it. Get real!

TurtleDude said:
I guess one of us will be wrong

but I do agree with you on one thing. I don't trust Trump on guns but he might be OK

The lying bitch is guaranteed to be awful
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Guarandamnteed! ;) No doubt whatsoever.
 
MickeyW said:
Because she is far more Evil than obama........and will do anything she can get away with. She already did it with the email server and the emails. Wikileaks just confirmed it. Get real!
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What makes you say that? What line of evidence leads you to this idea that's some genius conspirator out to destroy the country in secret and is just getting away with everything left and right?
 
Dragonfly said:
Yeah...I listened to 8 friggin years of how Obama was going to destroy the 2nd Amendment, all the while watching gun sales in the USofA hit record levels every month.

Don't look now, the sky is falling, and the wolf is coming.

The gun industry and all it's supporting businesses should all be campaigning for, and voting for 4 more years of democratic rule.
They've reaped the highest profits of any business in the USofA thanks to all the FEAR people like you enjoy spreading around.
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I suppose we are just going to ignore the liberal states that have actually banned certain guns or certain people from having guns in the last eight years. I also suppose we are going to ignore Obamas plan from not that long ago from banning people from having guns because they were on the no fly list. You know, the list that doesn't require due process to be on. The list that the government has full control over who is on it.
 
ocean515 said:
I can give you perhaps as many as 4 reasons she will be able to pursue her goal along a different path than an EO.
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Even with Supreme Court justices, they cannot create law.
 
jet57 said:
Well, that's only one. Secondly, exactly how is a supreme court justice going to get away with violating the second amendment? Lastly, unless Hillary gets a super majority, she's not going to be able to do much of anything. So, your point doesn't seem to add up there.
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How do you think? They just do it and have people like you run around saying their opinion is all that matter.s
 
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