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The real, underlying cause of gun violence[W:57:149]*****

Re: The real, unterlying cause of gun violence

Ganesh said:
Your comments on the long gun registry in Canada are untrue. While it did have cost overruns, it was strongly supported by police forces across the nation, including the RCMP (national police). They claimed many thousands of cases were it proved useful. In fact, about a third of Canadians have supported a complete ban on guns is some polls, and the main dissatisfaction with the gun registry was with its inept administration, not its stated mission. This legislation was only abolished after an extreme (by Canadian standards) RW government took office, one that supported a distinct minority of hunters, ranchers, gun enthusiasts, and libertarian types. It was a political decision, not one backed by those on the front line of law enforcement.
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I really don't care what Law enforcement wants when it decreases the rights of the people. I spent 30 years as a government attorney and I can guarantee you that most cops would love to see stuff like Miranda given the boot. Most American Law enforcement don't support gun bans, gun registration, waiting periods and the other crap the Democrat Party wants. But even if they did, I'd say so what?
 
Re: The real, unterlying cause of gun violence

Harshaw said:
No, it isn't. He actually argued the opposite -- that if you were take the militia clause fully into account, then full-auto military weapons like the M-16 would be protected, because they are certainly legitimate militia weapons. Instead, his standard was "in common use at the time" -- "common" meaning among the people, not military -- as the class of weapons protected. Good lord, you are wrong.
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Exactly right. It's a pleasure to see intelligent, well-informed comments on this subject. The poster who is dodging your question either has not read Justice Scalia's majority opinion in Heller at all, or has grossly misunderstood it. He has it just backward. Scalia concluded from all the evidence he could find that the Second Amendment was meant to protect an individual right to keep and bear arms that is unrelated to any organized militia. Considering how many paragraphs of the decision he devoted to the evidence for this, anyone who asserts that "the militia line in the 2nd amendment [is] even the source for Scalia, in Heller, claiming that government can most definitely regulate firearms" is embarrassing himself.
 
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Garydog said:
Would you like to explain why it is you make sweeping generalizations about millions of people with zero evidence? Your position on this topic can't be taken seriously. You're a complete ideologue, in the tank for some right-wing militia group who monitors elections or something.

And to answer your question, have you NEVER heard of satire or parody? LMAO @ you
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You'd do well to be more concerned about your own comments on this topic being taken seriously. Your peevish outbursts show the defensive tone I've often seen on these forums from posters who pretend to know what they do not, and get called on it.
 
Re: The real, unterlying cause of gun violence

Garydog said:
Why would I give a flying f**k what your kid did in the Ohio police olympics of all things? That has to be the dumbest point made in this thread.
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Posters who are confident about their understanding of this area of constitutional law don't feel the need to make angry, defensive bleats like that one. And it's not your first here. You seem to think that if only you add enough hot pepper to the dish you're serving up here, no one will notice that the ingredients in it aren't very good.
 
Re: The real, unterlying cause of gun violence

VanceMack said:
Either way...just saying...you cant blame this on poverty. There is more to it.
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No. but it is a risk factor. :)


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