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New Jersey School suspends student for anti gun control essay

TurtleDude said:
Liable is what I think you meant but yes, while students have less freedom than say an adult in his private home or on the public streets, public schools are agents of the state and thus can be liable for what we call constitutional torts. The Tinker decision is the landmark decision in this area of law and it involved students being disciplined for wearing black armbands in protest of the Nam war IIRC. The school claimed the display was disruptive and the Supreme Court ruled on behalf of the first amendment and the students finding the school to have violated their rights.

obviously in some cases "free speech" can be subject to restrictions by school. For example, discipline will be upheld against a student who disrupts a class by shouting obscenities or disturbing class. Students can be disciplined for wearing shirts that contain racist, vulgar or other disruptive comments


However, in this case, I doubt the school will prevail and the threat of "psychiatric examination" sounds too much like USSR suppression of dissidents.
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I have been saying for years that school are no longer educational institutions but they are in fact indoctrination
Centers and it gets even worse in college.
 
jet57 said:
No. All the school shootings goin on? and "the school" not knowing what was going on at the time? No.

And as I said, where's the teacher who could have cleared the whole thing up immediately?
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The teacher gave him an A on the assignment.

Yes we can blame the school for being stupid and harassing a student for constitutionally protected beliefs and rights.

See the 1st and 2nd amendment if you have issues.
 
justabubba said:

if this is the video that caused the commotion, then i do not recognize the basis for the school's objection


however, if the student insists this was the creation spawned by the assignment of a teacher who denies such assignment was made, then we have a 'he said she said' scenario. and i remain stumped. why would that trigger a suspension of the student?


there must be something more than this
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Actually, most gun homicides are caused by weapons legally obtained.
 
Masterhawk said:
Actually, most gun homicides are caused by weapons legally obtained.
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well that is really not true other than the fact that most weapons were legally obtained by someone at some point

80% of all murders or more are perpetrated by someone who cannot legally possess the weapon at the time they use it to commit the murder so their obtaining the weapons was not legal
 
TheGoverness said:
The teacher can't recall giving him the assignment? What?
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There is a difference between not recalling and denying.
I can't recall running down the street screaming naked.
I didn't run down the street screaming naked.

To stupid to remember or not honest enough to admit it.
 
jet57 said:
No. All the school shootings goin on? and "the school" not knowing what was going on at the time? No.

And as I said, where's the teacher who could have cleared the whole thing up immediately?
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1. Did you watch the video?
2. Where in the video did it advocate or promote aggressive violence of any kind?
3. What do all schools have in common? (hint, GFZ)
 
TurtleDude said:
how can anyone sensibly claim that opposing unconstitutional gun control is somehow linked to school shootings?
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How do I say this without getting in trouble? Never mind. Nuff said.
 
NonoBadDog said:
1. Did you watch the video?
2. Where in the video did it advocate or promote aggressive violence of any kind?
3. What do all schools have in common? (hint, GFZ)
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Please read exactly what I wrote, please comprehend exactly what I wrote, and then comment.
 
jet57 said:
Please read exactly what I wrote, please comprehend exactly what I wrote, and then comment.
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I guess you can't answer the questions but you can ignore what you replied to and how you replied. Hmm. Sorry I wasted my time.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I guess you can't answer the questions but you can ignore what you replied to and how you replied. Hmm. Sorry I wasted my time.
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You're making it up as you go along. Please read what people write, rather than relying on strawman tactics.
 
jet57 said:
Well, either the teacher who assigned the project will admit it and stick up for the kid, or the kid did it on his own, and since there was just yet another school shooting, you can't really blame the school for their reaction.
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The school made the decision and it is their reaction. There is absolutely no excuse that can indemnify the school for what they and they alone did.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Anti-gun-control video project gets H.S. student suspended | NJ.com

Unbelievable, I wrote anti gun control essays for school and I got good grades on them because they were well written, not suspended for it.

Unless there's more to the story someone should be criminally charged

For example deprivation of rights under color of law
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The police cleared the guy and the idiotic hysterical reaction to this is just gun control telling firearm owners how much they control such structures. What a pity the American people are to afraid to stand up for their rights and let these sick aberrants of society walk all over them.

It makes absolutely no difference if it was an assigned project or not. What has this guy done wrong? Why has gun control such a strangle hold on this and other schools? Where are parents who should be making loud noises in and outside that idiot administrators office?

Gun control ninnies would have no problem doing that.
 
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