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Survey: Nearly 110 Million Americans Have a Gun at Home

Crimefree said:
Such surveys are difficult in the face of current anti-gun rhetoric where bans and such restrictions are under discussion. People simply do not want to be identified as firearm owners even via a phone number.

Being a firearm owner does not make one immune to gun controls propaganda as witnessed by the number of firearm owners who currently support absolutely useless background check and registration. It is by loosing such people to gun control that this fight will be lost.
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I totally agree. The last poll was used in spite of those arguments and the numbers were lower. What this seems to indicate is either gun owners are more willing to profess their ownership or there are more gun owners. I think it is probably the latter.
 
Rico Suave said:
44%??

Another example of shoddy republican math. The US has around 320M people (ex undocumented) and was last at 250M in the early eighties I also feel bad for children who have no choice in the matter and are gravely endangered.
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Another example of shoddy democrat reading comprehension.
 
Visbek said:
No, you really can't.

They weren't doing a survey to determine what percentage of Americans own guns. They were asking peoples attitudes about guns, and as is normal in surveys, provide a profile of the survey respondents.
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From the article:
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See where it says "Guns in household" and "No guns in household? Did you miss that?
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Why, because it's higher? Please.
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It's higher than the old Pew poll.
You are a little behind here.
 
Exactice said:
My apologies, you may have had great points, I indeed have joined the site as of recent, unfortunately, my first impression was biased, so please excuse me for my judgement to you. Regardless If you are jaded because of the constant attacks from other members.... I would still like to see a couple of post that represent your cause rather than a blind attack at the specific contents error rather than the point....

I spell like crap, I type like crap, I dont proof read and make typing errors all the time, but I am sure you get my point....for the most part...... So arguing with my points fare better than criticizing my grammar right LOL?
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He didn't. Don't worry about it.
 
TurtleDude said:
when he turned 18 I took him to one store and had him buy a 22 target rifle and then we went to another a few weeks later and he got a 9mm PSA carbine. He got a pair of Springfield Armory Trophy Match 45s a couple years ago and for Christmas I got him a CZ custom shop Shadow for steel. He has a Daniels Defense AR 15 and my wife got him an Armalite match rifle for 3 G. He shoots a Beretta DT-11 for Olympic Trap. He's one of the best rimfire revolver (SW 617) steel shooters in this part of the country. He started off with one of those little Walther P-22s at age seven and by 11 was winning matches. His first "serious" pistol was a SW Model 10-he now shoots a Miculeck Custom SW Performance Center 8 shot in open revolver class. There are few 18 year olds in the country who are as well trained in all three major types of firearms
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Awesome. I never got around to teaching my kids that sort of discipline, nor have they been inclined to get that into it. He sounds like a great kid.............with purpose!

year2late said:
I haven't counted, but we are not near 110. But not near 1 either.;)
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Sounds like you still have shopping to do....;)
 
NonoBadDog said:
I totally agree. The last poll was used in spite of those arguments and the numbers were lower. What this seems to indicate is either gun owners are more willing to profess their ownership or there are more gun owners. I think it is probably the latter.
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Definitely the latter. Since last October, my classes have been steady and I'm only one of the 15 instructors in the county.

People are buying guns like crazy....many online.

Smith & Wesson sales surge 61.5% - Mar. 4, 2016


SWHC Annual Income Statement - Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. Annual Financials
 
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And S&W is only one company.....out of how many?

In addition to all the manufacturing going on in the US, from S&W, Ruger, Glock, Beretta, Winchester, Daniel Defense, and dozens of others, there are a couple dozen other foreign import makers. Like Tisas, Girsan, H&K, FN, CZ, Metro Arms, Rock Island Armory and on and on....and of course, the tons of military surplus weapons in rifle and pistol.

The industry is huge and thriving.
 
MickeyW said:
Awesome. I never got around to teaching my kids that sort of discipline, nor have they been inclined to get that into it. He sounds like a great kid.............with purpose!



Sounds like you still have shopping to do....;)
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Nah, we are looking towards unloading rather than reloading these days.;)
 
MickeyW said:
Certainly they can own guns. It depends on what state and what part of the country you are in. I've talked to a lot of Texans who have had their own guns since childhood.
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Most do not allow those under 18 to purchase them. Does not mean their parents or others cannot give them one, I should have used the word purchase since in most states that is the law, adults only, my bad. I have owned some sort of firearm since I was 9, the first being a pump .22 LR and I still own three .22 LRs.
 
MickeyW said:
Definitely the latter. Since last October, my classes have been steady and I'm only one of the 15 instructors in the county.

People are buying guns like crazy....many online.

Smith & Wesson sales surge 61.5% - Mar. 4, 2016


SWHC Annual Income Statement - Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. Annual Financials
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You got that right last time I was at our local Cabela's on a weekend you could not get near the long gun counters they have because of the crowd and a great many were buying, like that every weekend according to the salesman to talked to. Everyone I know, except one couple that already had more than their fair share already, have purchased at least one firearm in the last 12 months, a couple that did not even own one. People are seeing the writing on the wall and believe that they need to ensure that they purchase what they need in the way of firearms and ammunition so that if/when the next banner stupidity takes effect they will not have to worry. Not to mention that many are seeing that things are getting worse and not better and it is simply the smart thing to do to ensure that if worse comes to worse they will be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. Looks like not everyone is willing to depend on the gubment for their security, good for them.
 
NonoBadDog said:
From the article:
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See where it says "Guns in household" and "No guns in household? Did you miss that?
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I did not miss it at all. In fact, you missed my entire response.

Again: This survey was NOT designed to try to determine the number of households that have guns. That was not its goal.

If we accept your logic, then:
41% of Americans are Republican or lean R
49% of Americans are Democrats or lean D
0% of Americans are truly undecided
77% of Americans are registered to vote

If you assume that the poll was designed to perfectly reflect the US population, then at least two of those figures are wildly incorrect. We know that about 13% of Americans are independents without a party lean; and that only 56% of eligible voters are registered.

The key here is the term unweighted sample size. They're telling you who participated in it before they started to analyze and adjust the numbers. It's a standard polling procedure. The most likely explanation is they overweighted several groups in order to get valid responses.

We should note that Pew is a non-partisan organization, which does polling on gun ownership rates. If their research genuinely reflected a leap from 33% to 43% in the space of two years, that would be a major finding, and that would be a big headline.


Meanwhile, back in the real world: Surveys specifically targeting this question are showing record-low numbers of households with guns.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...erican-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/

Even Gallup, which shows higher figures than most pollsters, shows similar trends to what we've been hearing about for years.

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The evidence strongly suggests that fewer people are buying more guns. Seeing people misinterpret survey reports to try and claim otherwise is.... kinda sad.
 
year2late said:
Nah, we are looking towards unloading rather than reloading these days.;)
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Just keep your head down.....and don't waste ammo.

Rico Suave said:
this nutter certainly skews the polls

Officials: Man arrested after nearly 10,000 stolen guns found... | www.ajc.com
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No, he really doesn't. Apparently, you don't know the difference between legitimate gun owners ........and criminals. And this story is almost year old.
Grasping at straws, does not make you look any smarter. :2razz:

Casper said:
Most do not allow those under 18 to purchase them. Does not mean their parents or others cannot give them one, I should have used the word purchase since in most states that is the law, adults only, my bad. I have owned some sort of firearm since I was 9, the first being a pump .22 LR and I still own three .22 LRs.
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Ohhh, ok, that's different. Yes 18 is correct. Although, I'm sure some youngsters who are allowed to have full access to their rifles, have sold or traded, one or more to their buddies.
 
Casper said:
You got that right last time I was at our local Cabela's on a weekend you could not get near the long gun counters they have because of the crowd and a great many were buying, like that every weekend according to the salesman to talked to. Everyone I know, except one couple that already had more than their fair share already, have purchased at least one firearm in the last 12 months, a couple that did not even own one. People are seeing the writing on the wall and believe that they need to ensure that they purchase what they need in the way of firearms and ammunition so that if/when the next banner stupidity takes effect they will not have to worry. Not to mention that many are seeing that things are getting worse and not better and it is simply the smart thing to do to ensure that if worse comes to worse they will be able to protect themselves and their loved ones. Looks like not everyone is willing to depend on the gubment for their security, good for them.
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Yep, fully agree. And so do all these people in Mass.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...spike-sales/uu0awrrETYtyLKnbp6cHKK/story.html


Visbek said:
I did not miss it at all. In fact, you missed my entire response.

Again: This survey was NOT designed to try to determine the number of households that have guns. That was not its goal.

If we accept your logic, then:
41% of Americans are Republican or lean R
49% of Americans are Democrats or lean D
0% of Americans are truly undecided
77% of Americans are registered to vote

If you assume that the poll was designed to perfectly reflect the US population, then at least two of those figures are wildly incorrect. We know that about 13% of Americans are independents without a party lean; and that only 56% of eligible voters are registered.

The key here is the term unweighted sample size. They're telling you who participated in it before they started to analyze and adjust the numbers. It's a standard polling procedure. The most likely explanation is they overweighted several groups in order to get valid responses.

We should note that Pew is a non-partisan organization, which does polling on gun ownership rates. If their research genuinely reflected a leap from 33% to 43% in the space of two years, that would be a major finding, and that would be a big headline.


Meanwhile, back in the real world: Surveys specifically targeting this question are showing record-low numbers of households with guns.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...erican-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/

Even Gallup, which shows higher figures than most pollsters, shows similar trends to what we've been hearing about for years.

7ryjhigr9ee4xbbsvpbotg.png


The evidence strongly suggests that fewer people are buying more guns. Seeing people misinterpret survey reports to try and claim otherwise is.... kinda sad.
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Obviously, the evidence is wrong and more people are buying more guns :2razz:.....and this link is only a microcosm of the whole picture:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...spike-sales/uu0awrrETYtyLKnbp6cHKK/story.html


Sales are up all over the USA, from every manufacturer in the USA and European sales to the USA.

You couldn't be more wrong on your last sentence, Visbek.
 
MickeyW said:
Yep, fully agree. And so do all these people in Mass.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...spike-sales/uu0awrrETYtyLKnbp6cHKK/story.html




Obviously, the evidence is wrong and more people are buying more guns :2razz:.....and this link is only a microcosm of the whole picture:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...spike-sales/uu0awrrETYtyLKnbp6cHKK/story.html


Sales are up all over the USA, from every manufacturer in the USA and European sales to the USA.

You couldn't be more wrong on your last sentence, Visbek.
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The don't think anyone will deny that gun nutters are increasingly hoarding guns or that nutters are slowly dying out.
 
Rico Suave said:
The don't thinks anyone will deny that Hun nutters are increasingly hoarding guns or that nutters are slowly dying out.
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First of all, we aren't nutters, so stop using derogatory language toward us. At least, I'm not a Tinker Bell Utopian.

I'm training grade school and high school kids to shoot....for free. I've introduced 104 to the shooting sports just this year alone. Dying out? Not if I and many others can help it. We also educate them about people like you.

Hoarding guns? You bet. I know many people with 200-300 guns and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo. Lots of them. And we all have one common saying....Screw Utopians!

btw....the fastest growing trend of gun owners, are women.....and they make up about 37% of gun owners....I hope you checked out the video in my links above.
 
Teaching grade school children to shoot is deeply irresponsible. I wouldn't mention it in public if I were you.
 
Rico Suave said:
The stupid math survey went on to conclude that 109M Americans have guns in their households. I guess children aren't Americans.

Troubling
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It isn't stupid math when it makes Democratic policies look good. What is the difference here?
 
Rico Suave said:
Teaching grade school children to shoot is deeply irresponsible. I wouldn't mention it in public if I were you.
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Just the opposite.

-I teach them how to be safe and responsible Americans with firearms.
-I teach them how to appreciate the beauty and craftsmanship of firearms
-I teach them economics and capitalism, by showing them how many millions of people buy and use firearms for good purposes and how the firearms, ammo, leather and accessory industries, stimulate the economy and put people to work. Good, worthwhile people, not the bums they see on the street.
-I teach them about the myriad of shooting sports, that they can compete in, worldwide.
-I teach them about collecting fine firearms and how to appreciate them and care for them.
-I teach them how to battle their liberal legislators and form grass roots activism, promoting firearms and educating people.

Not irresponsible at all....and not only do I mention it in public, I advertise statewide and the word has spread and parents are bringing in their children from out of state.

Of course, I wouldn't teach kids in the inner city schools, where gang activity and drug addled, irresponsible parents are present. But then again, I don't live anywhere near those kind of places.

Anti-gun people are a poison..... to be collected, neutered and recycled, just like any other poison.;)
 
Rico Suave said:
Teaching grade school children to shoot is deeply irresponsible. I wouldn't mention it in public if I were you.
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that's really stupid. Kim Rhode won her olympic gold medal when she was 17. When do you think she started shooting. You continually post complete nonsense
 
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