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The tracers - an inside look at the real-life database of america’s firearms

WCH

WCH

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WCH said:
"There's no telling how many guns we have in America—and when one gets used in a crime, no way for the cops to connect it to its owner. The only place the police can turn for help is a Kafkaesque agency in West Virginia..."

See video at link.

https://www.conservativeoutfitters....k-at-how-the-atf-traces-guns-in-america-video

Apparently there's a data base.
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Of sorts! While I believe our Government is always up front and honest, I have to wounder if the Universal background check system
is not keeping track of recent purchases.
 
longview said:
Of sorts! While I believe our Government is always up front and honest, I have to wounder if the Universal background check system
is not keeping track of recent purchases.
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IIRC, the people I purchase firearms from told me the information I submit is destroyed after the BG check. Guess that's not true.
 
WCH said:
IIRC, the people I purchase firearms from told me the information I submit is destroyed after the BG check. Guess that's not true.
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Hard to say, it could be, but in the digital age, is anything actually deleted, (well Maybe some of Hillary's emails!)?
 
WCH said:
IIRC, the people I purchase firearms from told me the information I submit is destroyed after the BG check. Guess that's not true.
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Government has already been hauled over the coals about this previously. However once it is in governments hands there is absolutely no way short of a whistle blower of finding out. Since government wants this information so it knows who to come after you can bet with any law empowering them to collect it is never ever going to be deleted from where government stores it. 3 years ago.....

Background Check Gun Records Are Saved
 
Crimefree said:
Government has already been hauled over the coals about this previously. However once it is in governments hands there is absolutely no way short of a whistle blower of finding out. Since government wants this information so it knows who to come after you can bet with any law empowering them to collect it is never ever going to be deleted from where government stores it. 3 years ago.....

Background Check Gun Records Are Saved
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Clintons suck
 
WCH said:
IIRC, the people I purchase firearms from told me the information I submit is destroyed after the BG check. Guess that's not true.
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Nope, It is supposed to be but they don't always do what they are supposed to.
 
WCH said:
"There's no telling how many guns we have in America—and when one gets used in a crime, no way for the cops to connect it to its owner. The only place the police can turn for help is a Kafkaesque agency in West Virginia..."

See video at link.

https://www.conservativeoutfitters....k-at-how-the-atf-traces-guns-in-america-video

Apparently there's a data base.
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A limited data base. But still pretty extensive. And Forever!

That's why it is imperative that one buys his/her gun from a private party when possible.
Also, this tracking system does not work for guns smuggled into the US via military personnel and civilians. Over the last 100 years or so, I'd estimate that to be in the millions....I personally know of 8.
Thanks for the video.

longview said:
Of sorts! While I believe our Government is always up front and honest, I have to wounder if the Universal background check system
is not keeping track of recent purchases.
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I do not believe for a second, that our government is the least bit up front, or honest. Many individuals might be, but they are overruled by their boss.

WCH said:
IIRC, the people I purchase firearms from told me the information I submit is destroyed after the BG check. Guess that's not true.
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Damn right it's not true. Here in Oregon, the State Police handle all the BGCs and by Oregon law, they are supposed to keep the info for 5 years and purge it........good luck on the purge.
The damn Democrat controlled legislature is as anti-gun as they get and attempted this year to erase the 5 years law.... and make it indefinite. It was tabled. They will try again in 2017, along with a lot of other ****ty laws that only liberal Democraps can fathom in their ****ing pea brains.

WCH said:
Clintons suck
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They sure do!
 
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longview said:
Of sorts! While I believe our Government is always up front and honest, I have to wounder if the Universal background check system
is not keeping track of recent purchases.
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If it is I would think the information they have is limited. The form the dealer submits doesn't have any details about the gun you are buying or even what kind of gun it is. I don't even think it confirms if the sell actually happened. One time I went in to buy a gun, filled out the form, and waited. And waited. And waited. I told the dealer I couldn't wait around because I had to go pick up my family. The dealer said he would call me when it finally went through and that there was no hurry to complete the purchase since the NICS check was good for 30 days.

I could have changed my mind after leaving and not came back to complete the purchase. So having completed a check isn't even confirmation you bought a gun, let alone what kind it was. So if they have built a database from the checks it is going to be a pretty useless one.
 
BrewerBob said:
If it is I would think the information they have is limited. The form the dealer submits doesn't have any details about the gun you are buying or even what kind of gun it is. I don't even think it confirms if the sell actually happened. One time I went in to buy a gun, filled out the form, and waited. And waited. And waited. I told the dealer I couldn't wait around because I had to go pick up my family. The dealer said he would call me when it finally went through and that there was no hurry to complete the purchase since the NICS check was good for 30 days.

I could have changed my mind after leaving and not came back to complete the purchase. So having completed a check isn't even confirmation you bought a gun, let alone what kind it was. So if they have built a database from the checks it is going to be a pretty useless one.
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Fair enough, I was trying to remember what data went into the system the last time I bought a gun,
For some reason I thought they scanned in the barcode from the box.
 
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