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Knife attack perfect example of why it is important to get guns under control. [W: 45

Capster78 said:
Gun laws are obviously not strict enough to begin with.
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No, according to you, all guns need to be confiscated and the government needs to forcibly search every home, business, church, and anything else in the entire country to make sure they got them all . . . and that's what you need to feel safe.

Fortunately, your nightmare scenario ain't never gonna happen.
 
Capster78 said:
Not helpless, maybe in your case, to dumb to retreat. The number one fatal flaw in many men is their ego's. "No one is going to violate my rights!!" "No one is going to take my stuff".. So you go marching into a confrontation and get yourself killed instead of walking away with your life. The best defense, is to not ever have to fight.

And in fact, the worst defense, is a defense.

You should be either attacking or avoiding. Defending is the fastest way to defeat.
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I would never be willing to die for my stuff. Perfectly willing to die for someone else. I have put my life on the line many times. No ego involved. Just humanity.
No..you have it wrong. The worst defense is no defense. Your method of defense is to run away, leave your wife as bait and be a good witness after her demise. I imagine your children will be just as expendable. Wonderful.
 
Goshin said:
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I'm no caveman, bud. I studied tactics from one of the best, and the first rule is avoid the fight if you can; if you can't, make damn sure you've got the advantage.


I don't know why I am even talking to you. I've forgotten more about this topic than you'll ever know. I have the habit of trying to educate those who lack information, though, but in your case you clearly have no interest in learning how things really work in real life.
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Ah yes, you are talking to someone over the internet about how much more you know than them. You don't know me and you don't know my abilities. I would never say to someone I have never met, or don't know that I know more or are more capable then they are at anything. It's fairly obvious you did not learn very good tactics. One of the rules is to know your enemy. I don't think you would consider it very smart to run full steam into the dark fists clenched ready for a fight.

Im sorry, but i think i can consider your entire tactics rant to be nothing more than the ego that gets most idiots killed when they think they got to defend their big screen TV from getting stolen.
 
BretJ said:
No..you have it wrong. The worst defense is no defense. Your method of defense is to run away, leave your wife as bait and be a good witness after her demise. I imagine your children will be just as expendable. Wonderful.
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If my wife is dumb enough to just stand there and get attacked.. then sorry, nothing I can do about that.
 
Capster78 said:
Ah yes, you are talking to someone over the internet about how much more you know than them. You don't know me and you don't know my abilities. I would never say to someone I have never met, or don't know that I know more or are more capable then they are at anything. It's fairly obvious you did not learn very good tactics. One of the rules is to know your enemy. I don't think you would consider it very smart to run full steam into the dark fists clenched ready for a fight.

Im sorry, but i think i can consider your entire tactics rant to be nothing more than the ego that gets most idiots killed when they think they got to defend their big screen TV from getting stolen.
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I think we can all see from your posts your real goal is to punish law abiding gun owners because they tend not to be far lefties
 
Capster78 said:
If my wife is dumb enough to just stand there and get attacked.. then sorry, nothing I can do about that.
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Seriously? You would run away and leave your wife, saying "tough luck, shoulda run"?

Holy flirking snit, man; that's a special kind of cowardice. I'm speechless. I didn't fully appreciate the depth.

Good God. No one should ever, ever, ever take you seriously. Ever.
 
Harshaw said:
Seriously? You would run away and leave your wife, saying "tough luck, shoulda run"?

Holy flirking snit, man; that's a special kind of cowardice. I'm speechless. I didn't fully appreciate the depth.

Good God. No one should ever, ever, ever take you seriously. Ever.
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gun banners almost always outsource their own safety to the government rather than accepting the RESPONSIBILITY and the RISK Of failure that comes from making it a personal duty
 
TurtleDude said:
gun banners almost always outsource their own safety to the government rather than accepting the RESPONSIBILITY and the RISK Of failure that comes from making it a personal duty
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Even so, just to run away and leave your wife? Sweet Jesus.
 
Capster78 said:
Ah yes, you are talking to someone over the internet about how much more you know than them. You don't know me and you don't know my abilities. I would never say to someone I have never met, or don't know that I know more or are more capable then they are at anything. It's fairly obvious you did not learn very good tactics. One of the rules is to know your enemy. I don't think you would consider it very smart to run full steam into the dark fists clenched ready for a fight.

Im sorry, but i think i can consider your entire tactics rant to be nothing more than the ego that gets most idiots killed when they think they got to defend their big screen TV from getting stolen.
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Funny. :lamo


I know you don't know much about real world self-defense because you approach the entire subject from the entire wrong attitude and assumptions, and with what is clearly limited understanding of how these things happen in real life.

I TEACH this stuff. Dozens of people came to me to learn, and then they came back with a few hundred friends they'd told "you have to train with this guy".


The first segment of any class or seminar I give is titled "Awareness and Avoidance". Many people say that is their favorite part of the class.

Guys that are former military have come to me to learn street self-defense and defensive handgunning, and went away glad they did.

So yeah, you could say I speak on this subject with great confidence. Pity you don't listen.
 
Goshin said:
Funny. :lamo


I know you don't know much about real world self-defense because you approach the entire subject from the entire wrong attitude and assumptions, and with what is clearly limited understanding of how these things happen in real life.

I TEACH this stuff. Dozens of people came to me to learn, and then they came back with a few hundred friends they'd told "you have to train with this guy".

Guys that are former military have come to me to learn street self-defense and defensive handgunning, and went away glad they did.

So yeah, you could say I speak on this subject with great confidence. Pity you don't listen.
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I don't care what you teach. Do you teach your students, that once they learn what you have to teach them that they are more capable than every stranger on the internet?
 
Capster78 said:
I don't care what you teach. Do you teach your students, that once they learn what you have to teach them that they are more capable than every stranger on the internet?
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Nope. I teach them to spot trouble early and move to avoid it, as the primary means of self-defense in 90% of situations.

My evaluation of you is admittedly based on what you've said on DP, mostly what you've said on this thread.

If you understand how street crime ACTUALLY develops and occurs... if you understand tactics as they apply to civilian self-defense... if you understand that if avoidance fails (as it sometimes does) that all is NOT lost if you have the right mindset and readiness.... if you understand these things and actually possess any real-world self-defense knowlege, SO FAR you have hidden it well.


I can only go by what you show, here.
 
Goshin said:
Nope. I teach them to spot trouble early and move to avoid it, as the primary means of self-defense in 90% of situations.

My evaluation of you is admittedly based on what you've said on DP, mostly what you've said on this thread.

If you understand how street crime ACTUALLY develops and occurs... if you understand tactics as they apply to civilian self-defense... if you understand that if avoidance fails (as it sometimes does) that all is NOT lost if you have the right mindset and readiness.... if you understand these things and actually possess any real-world self-defense knowlege, SO FAR you have hidden it well.


I can only go by what you show, here.
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Apparently my lack of defense tactics has done me well. 35 years, never a fight, never been shot, stabbed either..
 
Capster78 said:
Apparently my lack of defense tactics has done me well. 35 years, never a fight, never been shot, stabbed either..
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Bully for you. Some people are lucky, or live in low crime areas.


Not everyone is so fortunate.
 
Capster78 said:
Apparently my lack of defense tactics has done me well. 35 years, never a fight, never been shot, stabbed either..
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That's because your first one will most likely be your last

me, some knife fights, one shooting. won all of them

in one case i was better armed and better trained
the other few-better trained. In one case, it appeared the other guy was better armed. A walking stick might appear less lethal than a swtichblade to the stupid as well. That was what the stoner with the switchblade thought Big mistake
 
Goshin said:
Nope. I teach them to spot trouble early and move to avoid it, as the primary means of self-defense in 90% of situations.

My evaluation of you is admittedly based on what you've said on DP, mostly what you've said on this thread.

If you understand how street crime ACTUALLY develops and occurs... if you understand tactics as they apply to civilian self-defense... if you understand that if avoidance fails (as it sometimes does) that all is NOT lost if you have the right mindset and readiness.... if you understand these things and actually possess any real-world self-defense knowlege, SO FAR you have hidden it well.


I can only go by what you show, here.
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My philosophy on self defense is first, avoidance, if avoidance is not possible then I do nothing, and last resort is to attack. I never carry a firearm, so I avoid at a distance and attack at close range. I have always believed that your actions will determine the reaction of any potential attacker. If they are going to shoot you, they will shoot you weather you defend / attack them or not. Either way, your dead. So the best course of action is to avoid or be the least threatening as you can possibly be during a confrontation. Set your ego aside and pretty much go along with whatever the attacker wants. While at the same time, I look for openings for either escape, or to close my distance between myself and my attacker so I can use my martial arts knowledge to my advantage. The only time I will ever attack someone is if I am in very close proximity to them. But I always fall back on being as un-confrontational and unthreatening as possible. If any of my actions to seek escape or to reduce my distance to my attacker seems threatening to the attacker, then I do nothing and stay as unthreatening as possible. Call it cowardice if you like, but I would be willing to bet that my philosophy would see me out of more situations alive than someone who thinks a gun is a solution to every conflict.
 
Capster78 said:
Apparently my lack of defense tactics has done me well. 35 years, never a fight, never been shot, stabbed either..
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Same here for 50 years. So I guess owning a gun has worked for me.
 
Capster78 said:
My philosophy on self defense is first, avoidance, if avoidance is not possible then I do nothing, and last resort is to attack. I never carry a firearm, so I avoid at a distance and attack at close range. I have always believed that your actions will determine the reaction of any potential attacker. If they are going to shoot you, they will shoot you weather you defend / attack them or not. Either way, your dead. So the best course of action is to avoid or be the least threatening as you can possibly be during a confrontation. Set your ego aside and pretty much go along with whatever the attacker wants. While at the same time, I look for openings for either escape, or to close my distance between myself and my attacker so I can use my martial arts knowledge to my advantage. The only time I will ever attack someone is if I am in very close proximity to them. But I always fall back on being as un-confrontational and unthreatening as possible. If any of my actions to seek escape or to reduce my distance to my attacker seems threatening to the attacker, then I do nothing and stay as unthreatening as possible. Call it cowardice if you like, but I would be willing to bet that my philosophy would see me out of more situations alive than someone who thinks a gun is a solution to every conflict.
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we who actually study self defense and are skilled in it have several words for people who use your tactics

1) victim

2) raped

3) dead
 
Capster78 said:
My philosophy on self defense is first, avoidance, if avoidance is not possible then I do nothing, and last resort is to attack. I never carry a firearm, so I avoid at a distance and attack at close range. I have always believed that your actions will determine the reaction of any potential attacker. If they are going to shoot you, they will shoot you weather you defend / attack them or not. Either way, your dead. So the best course of action is to avoid or be the least threatening as you can possibly be during a confrontation. Set your ego aside and pretty much go along with whatever the attacker wants. While at the same time, I look for openings for either escape, or to close my distance between myself and my attacker so I can use my martial arts knowledge to my advantage. The only time I will ever attack someone is if I am in very close proximity to them. But I always fall back on being as un-confrontational and unthreatening as possible. If any of my actions to seek escape or to reduce my distance to my attacker seems threatening to the attacker, then I do nothing and stay as unthreatening as possible. Call it cowardice if you like, but I would be willing to bet that my philosophy would see me out of more situations alive than someone who thinks a gun is a solution to every conflict.
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You're saying here that you do a lot of things (like "attacking" and using your "martial arts knowledge") just a few posts after you said that you've never been in a fight.
 
Capster78 said:
Id rather be a coward then dead.
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Who says the two are mutually exclusive or that the assailant is giving you a choice.
My wife will heal and my "ass" will heal.
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Sure, she'll just get over getting raped, and having a husband that just said "as long as you only rape us and leave" is sure going to help that healing process. :roll:
People who's pride is worth more than their life are in my opinion, moronic cavemen.
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You'll excuse us if we dismiss this as hyperbole formed through a less than credible opinion.
 
Harshaw said:
You're saying here that you do a lot of things (like "attacking" and using your "martial arts knowledge") just a few posts after you said that you've never been in a fight.
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watching kung fu reruns for years might be the answer. hard to develop martial arts skills without fighting

its sort of like a virgin claiming to be a world class lover
 
Capster78 said:
My philosophy on self defense is first, avoidance, if avoidance is not possible then I do nothing, and last resort is to attack. I never carry a firearm, so I avoid at a distance and attack at close range. I have always believed that your actions will determine the reaction of any potential attacker. If they are going to shoot you, they will shoot you weather you defend / attack them or not. Either way, your dead. So the best course of action is to avoid or be the least threatening as you can possibly be during a confrontation. Set your ego aside and pretty much go along with whatever the attacker wants. While at the same time, I look for openings for either escape, or to close my distance between myself and my attacker so I can use my martial arts knowledge to my advantage. The only time I will ever attack someone is if I am in very close proximity to them. But I always fall back on being as un-confrontational and unthreatening as possible. If any of my actions to seek escape or to reduce my distance to my attacker seems threatening to the attacker, then I do nothing and stay as unthreatening as possible. Call it cowardice if you like, but I would be willing to bet that my philosophy would see me out of more situations alive than someone who thinks a gun is a solution to every conflict.
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Cowardice only comes in when you choose to run away and leave someone less capable of defending themselves on their own when you had the potential to help. And by the way, a gun is not the solution to every conflict. Nobody here believes that for a second. However, it is your best option in others.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Who says the two are mutually exclusive or that the assailant is giving you a choice.
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If I don't have a choice, then I am dead either way. Owning a firearm does not make me bullet proof.

Sure, she'll just get over getting raped, and having a husband that just said "as long as you only rape us and leave" is sure going to help that healing process. :roll:
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What if your wife told you she would rather you be dead then her be raped?
 
TurtleDude said:
watching kung fu reruns for years might be the answer. hard to develop martial arts skills without fighting

its sort of like a virgin claiming to be a world class lover
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I think it's pretty clear that a lot of things happen only his imagination.

What's the point of having "martial arts knowledge" if you're just going to leave your wife to an attacker and run away?
 
Harshaw said:
No, according to you, all guns need to be confiscated and the government needs to forcibly search every home, business, church, and anything else in the entire country to make sure they got them all . . . and that's what you need to feel safe.

Fortunately, your nightmare scenario ain't never gonna happen.
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They couldn't hire enough replacements after the first wave got dealt with.
 
BretJ said:
Cowardice only comes in when you choose to run away and leave someone less capable of defending themselves on their own when you had the potential to help. And by the way, a gun is not the solution to every conflict. Nobody here believes that for a second. However, it is your best option in others.
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Not true... If your defense would obviously be in vein and get both of you killed...
 
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