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Trump to Cut Food Stamps

Do tell how those locked down children are getting to those designated schools. There are no school buses taking them to dine anywhere. Are they walking? How is this magic happening. Show me the schools that were prepared for remote eating. More magic? School systems completely unprepared for remote learning, with children too poor to eat and obviously too poor to own computers at home, magically remote feeding those same children. Yup, SNAP is the answer.

What is criminal, is using the image of hungry children to avoid facing up to a question you are afraid to answer. You can't blame Trump for your own BS.

Don't dare tell me what I want, because you don't have clue as to what you want. Woe, the starving children. BS.

The self appointed expert advocacy groups in this country claim 1 out of every 5 children live "food insecure" lives, meaning they struggle with hunger and malnutrition in the course of a year. Got to love that phrase "food insecure." Kind of like using redneck as an excuse for bigotry, even tho using the word redneck is bigoted. That translates as 20% of American children. Yet, less than 12% of Americans live in poverty. The numbers don't jive. Now, of course, we can have kids from rich families who are malnourished, eating all the wrong foods, and that is included in that phrase "food insecure." Plumps up the "food insecure" numbers, along with the reality that so many children are obese. Obese starving children. More Magic.

How can there be starvation in this country when we waste as a nation approximately 80 billion pounds of food which equates to more than $161 billion annually, approximately 219 pounds of waste per person and 30-40 percent of the US food supply? And right now, with the claim that farmers and ranchers are destroying livestock, and harvest because meat processing plants are partly shut down because of Covid 19, even more waste. Mind boggling, isn't it? And nobody wants government cheese.

Let me clue you in. There are no starving Americans. No starving American children. There are malnourished people, including children, but not because they can't get enough to eat. SNAP reductions may cause some problems for some people, but they are not likely to significantly increase the numbers of malnourished children. And I agree, no child should go to bed hungry, or malnourished, but you have no answers to the problems, just political slogans and BS. Trump isn't the excuse or the villain in this story that you claim him to be. That is merely your partisan crap at work. I'm not excusing him, but he is not responsible for the systemic problems of this nation that have existed under every administration. "A chicken in every pot." A promise from one of out greatest presidents. Never fulfilled. "We will build a Great Society." Another unfulfilled promise to eliminate poverty by a great domestic president who was overshadowed by the horrors of an insane war. What ya gonna do?

The best intentions cannot eliminate poverty and all that goes with it. That doesn't mean we surrender to it, but that we must recognize political partisanship and slogans offer no solutions. We are a can do nation. We must show with real life actions what we can do. And merely throwing money at a problem doesn't resolve that problem. We need better answers for all of us.

No more straw man arguments from you. No more acceptable avoidance of questions posed. No more emotional and sentimental appeals will be tolerated. And if I had realistic answers to these problems, I'd be shouting them from rooftops.

It's happening all over America. Schools are doing their best and feeding children. Dont believe me. Look it up.

I don't want to eliminate poverty. There are no miracles.


I just want every kid in America fed. And educated. And getting healthcare.


If we cant do that we have failed as a country.


Kids dont care about your politics. They just want to eat.


Feed them first. SNAP is the cheapest way to do that
 
Ok you hate poor kids who never did anything wrong.


Noted

Why do liberals like to throw the word 'hate' around like it is bean bag?

I don't hate poor kids. But in most cases their parents didn't love them enough to make good choices for themselves and their kids. And I say that because here in America you really have to make some major missteps to end up poor to the point where you can't feed yourself.

Don't blame me, blame the parents.
 
You keep missing a basic point and that is that "beggars can't be choosers". The "line" is drawn between those who are responsible for themselves and those who are not.

Bottom line: it shouldn't be the role of government to manage anyone's life or their choices. But at the point where a person is incapable of managing their own life and asks for or accepts assistance, then they don't get to drive the boat anymore.

OK. So you in your little abode want to direct what people eat but not everyone, just the people you believe you pay a few cents every year to support. Even if you pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes every year, the amount you personally contribute to food stamps is tiny at best. Yet on your mighty perch, that paragon of virtue, you want to treat them differently then all others. You really don't care about their diets or you would care about everyones diet. No, this is a morality play for you, a way for you to feel big, important and mighty. Go f yourself.
 
It's happening all over America. Schools are doing their best and feeding children. Dont believe me. Look it up.

I don't want to eliminate poverty. There are no miracles.


I just want every kid in America fed. And educated. And getting healthcare.


If we cant do that we have failed as a country.


Kids dont care about your politics. They just want to eat.


Feed them first. SNAP is the cheapest way to do that

BS. Simple and plain. Public schools across the nation were providing 30 million meals daily to children. Now it is estimated they are barely serving 285k meals per day. You don't know what you are talking about. That's hard data from the USDA.

Look up my posts here about real universal healthcare. Do not ascribe your crap to me. You are the one playing politics. "Cry me a river, baby"
 
Why do liberals like to throw the word 'hate' around like it is bean bag?

I don't hate poor kids. But in most cases their parents didn't love them enough to make good choices for themselves and their kids. And I say that because here in America you really have to make some major missteps to end up poor to the point where you can't feed yourself.

Don't blame me, blame the parents.

I'm not in the blame business. A hungry kid does not care whose fault it is.


He just wants to eat.


So feed him. It's the least we can do
 
BS. Simple and plain. Public schools across the nation were providing 30 million meals daily to children. Now it is estimated they are barely serving 285k meals per day. You don't know what you are talking about. That's hard data from the USDA.

Look up my posts here about real universal healthcare. Do not ascribe your crap to me. You are the one playing politics. "Cry me a river, baby"

I dont buy your numbers for a second
 
I think kids should be fed. If their parents dont do it the government should. Foos stamps is the cheapest way to achieve this


Feed every kid....then build aircraft carriers

If that's the way you want it, you do it. Start your own charity. Cook the food yourself and deliver it. Pay for it out of your own pocket until you can get funding. Why? Because you're the one who wants it.
 
If that's the way you want it, you do it. Start your own charity. Cook the food yourself and deliver it. Pay for it out of your own pocket until you can get funding. Why? Because you're the one who wants it.

Sure.


You buy the aircraft carriers. Lol
 
OK. So you in your little abode want to direct what people eat but not everyone, just the people you believe you pay a few cents every year to support.

No I don't want to direct what people eat. But I do want to see public money spent appropriately. Allowing welfare folk to get a little card and then go to Jack in the Box and Taco Bell is not an appropriate expenditure of that money. It is wasteful, and a poor choice. You and I both would agree that fast food, snacks, and convenience store meals are not better choices than staple foods and balanced food groups.

Even if you pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes every year, the amount you personally contribute to food stamps is tiny at best. Yet on your mighty perch, that paragon of virtue, you want to treat them differently then all others. You really don't care about their diets or you would care about everyones diet. No, this is a morality play for you, a way for you to feel big, important and mighty. Go f yourself.





Even if you pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes every year, the amount you personally contribute to food stamps is tiny at best.

What do you mean "what if"? I DO pay tens of thousands in tax dollars, so obviously I am going to care where that money is being spent. Which maybe is the difference between you and me, I am paying, not sure if you are too? But even a dollar that is wasted is a dollar maybe I could have spent better myself. Why do you take this personally, it's just business.


Yet on your mighty perch, that paragon of virtue, you want to treat them differently then all others.

But there is a difference and not one that I mandated or created. If they are getting assistance for food, and someone else is paying their full ride, then doesn't that already indicate a difference?
If I pay to go on a vacation cruise and someone else goes on the same cruise for free on the taxpayers dime, aren't the two "different"? One paid, and the other got something for free. So what if everybody got stuff for free? Who would be paying for the free stuff? Would it just appear magically out of thin air? Why do you have a problem with the people who are paying having an opinion on what THEY are paying for?

You really don't care about their diets or you would care about everyones diet.

Still stuck on that are you? Again, there is a DIFFERENCE between people who pay, and people who don't pay. If you don't pay then you shouldn't have all the say in how the people who are paying have their money spent. It is as simple as that.

I don't care what people who spend their own money on eat, doesn't affect my wallet. But if the cost of food stamps could be cut by demanding the money spent is spent more wisely, and/or cut off from people who don't need it, or who should work harder for themselves, then I'm all for that. And I get to say that because I AM PAYING. Don't pay, then no say!

No, this is a morality play for you, a way for you to feel big, important and mighty. Go f yourself.

LOL, no reason to stop being a lady.

No it isn't primarily about morality, it's about business---the bottom line. How OUR money is being spent. Moral questions only come into it when we are wasting tax dollars from all of the hard working people who aren't demanding that other people feed them. Why don't you care about them? All of the hard working Americans who might like to just roll into Micky D's and whip out a prepaid foodstamp card an load up on fast conveniently meals that they didn't pay for? Why don't you care about the hard working Americans who are doing their best to balance their household budgets and who are home cooking canned tuna and rice and doing without the chocolate shake for dessert?

Yeah, my "morality" is to care about them first and foremost. And if cutting taxes helps them have that extra dollar in their pocket to spend over some welfare queen going to Wendy's for double cheeseburger then I can live with that.
 
Sure.


You buy the aircraft carriers. Lol

I already do, AND I cared enough to buy, prepare, and serve more lunches than I can remember, although I am out of that business now. It's YOUR turn.
 
I'm not in the blame business. A hungry kid does not care whose fault it is.


He just wants to eat.


So feed him. It's the least we can do

Then go ahead and you feed him, I won't stop you. Go to your panty, take out some food, cook it up and go feed that kid. I'm sure it will make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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I already do, AND I cared enough to buy, prepare, and serve more lunches than I can remember, although I am out of that business now. It's YOUR turn.

Way ahead. Spent over 20 years helping children and families.
 
Then go ahead and you feed him, I won't stop you. Go to your panty, take out some food, cook it up and go feed that kid. I'm sure it will make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

As soon as you build those aircraft carriers
 
As soon as you build those aircraft carriers

Why do you hate aircraft carriers? They are the single most technically advanced piece of machinery ever created by mankind. Far surpassing the space program or the airplane by itself. A CITY that can travel the oceans projecting power around the globe AT WILL. One modern carrier packs more power than all of the legions of the Roman empire combined.

Now if that isn't something worthy of spending tax dollars for, I don't know what is? Who can get excited like that over an EBT paid Buger King supersize combo meal?

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Why do you hate aircraft carriers? They are the single most technically advanced piece of machinery ever created by mankind. Far surpassing the space program or the airplane by itself. A CITY that can travel the oceans projecting power around the globe AT WILL. One modern carrier packs more power than all of the legions of the Roman empire combined.

Now if that isn't something worthy of spending tax dollars for, I don't know what is? Who can get excited like that over an EBT paid Buger King supersize combo meal?

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China has one and russia has one.


We have 11.



What a total waste of money when we have hungry kids
 
China has one [Aircraft Carrier] and russia has one.


We have 11.

Yeah, China has one that they bought from Russia to refurbish, an old piece of crap Russia had which even they couldn't continue to keep operating.

Would be nice if we had 20 of them. But that would probably mean some welfare queen would need to get off their duffs and cook super for their own kids.


What a total waste of money when we have hungry kids

 
Yeah, China has one that they bought from Russia to refurbish, an old piece of crap Russia had which even they couldn't continue to keep operating.

Would be nice if we had 20 of them. But that would probably mean some welfare queen would need to get off their duffs and cook super for their own kids.






No we need 50 of them. Wait a hundred


What a total waste of money
 
No we need 50 of them. Wait a hundred


What a total waste of money

Too bad we didn't have another 10 or 20 available in the Pacific during WW2. We would have ended that war much sooner saving tens of thousands of lives of some of our greatest generation. Not to mention many Japanese lives as well.

But that isn't something you would care about. Better that someone be able to guy a Happy Meal at Micky D's than ask them to cook their own meals from healthier items paid for with their welfare money.
 
Too bad we didn't have another 10 or 20 available in the Pacific during WW2. We would have ended that war much sooner saving tens of thousands of lives of some of our greatest generation. Not to mention many Japanese lives as well.

But that isn't something you would care about. Better that someone be able to guy a Happy Meal at Micky D's than ask them to cook their own meals from healthier items paid for with their welfare money.

Are you worried of a Japanese invasion?


Hahahahaha
 
I wonder if those on food stamps and welfare had to join the military or be sent to Auschwitz type concentration camps ,how many would soon find jobs.
 
I wonder if those on food stamps and welfare had to join the military or be sent to Auschwitz type concentration camps ,how many would soon find jobs.

They could say they had bone spurs like the orange cheeto. Lol
 
No I don't want to direct what people eat. But I do want to see public money spent appropriately. Allowing welfare folk to get a little card and then go to Jack in the Box and Taco Bell is not an appropriate expenditure of that money. It is wasteful, and a poor choice. You and I both would agree that fast food, snacks, and convenience store meals are not better choices than staple foods and balanced food groups.









What do you mean "what if"? I DO pay tens of thousands in tax dollars, so obviously I am going to care where that money is being spent. Which maybe is the difference between you and me, I am paying, not sure if you are too? But even a dollar that is wasted is a dollar maybe I could have spent better myself. Why do you take this personally, it's just business.




But there is a difference and not one that I mandated or created. If they are getting assistance for food, and someone else is paying their full ride, then doesn't that already indicate a difference?
If I pay to go on a vacation cruise and someone else goes on the same cruise for free on the taxpayers dime, aren't the two "different"? One paid, and the other got something for free. So what if everybody got stuff for free? Who would be paying for the free stuff? Would it just appear magically out of thin air? Why do you have a problem with the people who are paying having an opinion on what THEY are paying for?



Still stuck on that are you? Again, there is a DIFFERENCE between people who pay, and people who don't pay. If you don't pay then you shouldn't have all the say in how the people who are paying have their money spent. It is as simple as that.

I don't care what people who spend their own money on eat, doesn't affect my wallet. But if the cost of food stamps could be cut by demanding the money spent is spent more wisely, and/or cut off from people who don't need it, or who should work harder for themselves, then I'm all for that. And I get to say that because I AM PAYING. Don't pay, then no say!



LOL, no reason to stop being a lady.

No it isn't primarily about morality, it's about business---the bottom line. How OUR money is being spent. Moral questions only come into it when we are wasting tax dollars from all of the hard working people who aren't demanding that other people feed them. Why don't you care about them? All of the hard working Americans who might like to just roll into Micky D's and whip out a prepaid foodstamp card an load up on fast conveniently meals that they didn't pay for? Why don't you care about the hard working Americans who are doing their best to balance their household budgets and who are home cooking canned tuna and rice and doing without the chocolate shake for dessert?

Yeah, my "morality" is to care about them first and foremost. And if cutting taxes helps them have that extra dollar in their pocket to spend over some welfare queen going to Wendy's for double cheeseburger then I can live with that.

Your full of ****, you can not use snap in fast food reseraunts!!!
 
Your full of ****, you can not use snap in fast food reseraunts!!!

I'm not an expert on foodstamps, EBT, or snap. But I do know that some states have laws which allow people to use snap benefits through their EBT cards at fast food restaurants. So maybe not in every state, but it clearly became the trend, especially during the Obummer administration, and why thankfully the Trump administration is trying to real that foolishness in.

Make me king and I'd make people line up with a pan to get a portion of cooked rice and chicken each day. Want to talk about an incentive to get off welfare, that kind of scorn and ridicule might be the difference. Nothing I hate to see more is people using foodstamps or snap to buy crap other hard working people would consider a luxury.
 
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