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    Re: Before Taxing More

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Congress critters are accountable to their state/district voters. If deficit spending did not get them re-elected (achieve political success) at a rate of over 90% then they might consider ending that practice. Until then, you can rest assured that they will continue to do what has proven to be so politically successful.
    I appreciate and agree with your comments, though with a pretty big caveat: the two major parties have figured out that if they both do the same horrible stuff (that isn't limited just to running up the debt) they'll be able to get away with it. And they've done a pretty good job so far at keeping third parties off of state ballots. Voters don't have a choice even between hotdogs and hamburgers, but between hot dogs and hot dogs, with no way out of the restaurant, so to speak.

    The sheer animosity supporters of one or the other party tend to have toward the other serves this purpose well; it distracts voters and ensures that they will continue to vote for one of the two major parties as much out of hatred for the other as any real desire to enact one or the other party platform. So, to summarize, the "opposing" parties have created a duopoly that is backed by very deep, albeit manufactured and manipulated, public sentiment, and that tends to enjoy the force of law. So while you are correct that the strategies politicians have adopted have been very politically successful, they've managed to turn a political advantage into a legal one; there are nearly insurmountable challenges to getting any third alternative party on enough state ballots to make any kind of difference.

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    Re: Before Taxing More

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    I appreciate and agree with your comments, though with a pretty big caveat: the two major parties have figured out that if they both do the same horrible stuff (that isn't limited just to running up the debt) they'll be able to get away with it. And they've done a pretty good job so far at keeping third parties off of state ballots. Voters don't have a choice even between hotdogs and hamburgers, but between hot dogs and hot dogs, with no way out of the restaurant, so to speak.

    The sheer animosity supporters of one or the other party tend to have toward the other serves this purpose well; it distracts voters and ensures that they will continue to vote for one of the two major parties as much out of hatred for the other as any real desire to enact one or the other party platform. So, to summarize, the "opposing" parties have created a duopoly that is backed by very deep, albeit manufactured and manipulated, public sentiment, and that tends to enjoy the force of law. So while you are correct that the strategies politicians have adopted have been very politically successful, they've managed to turn a political advantage into a legal one; there are nearly insurmountable challenges to getting any third alternative party on enough state ballots to make any kind of difference.
    A big problem with thrid party candidates is that they tend to take more votes from one major party than the other, yet never reach a plurality - thus handing the election to the candidate from the "wrong" major party.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Before Taxing More

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    A big problem with thrid party candidates is that they tend to take more votes from one major party than the other, yet never reach a plurality - thus handing the election to the candidate from the "wrong" major party.
    Also true...and another reason that current conditions will require a great deal of political energy to overcome.

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