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Budget deficit smashes $1 trillion mark, the highest in seven years

Bullseye said:
Sorry, no the facts totally contradict you.
LOL, you have all the classic "nuh-uhs" memorized. When tax revenue goes up as people and businesses are paying smaller percentages the only explanation is increased economic activity. Had the rates NOT been reduced that extra money the drove the economic growth wouldn't have been avail and the economy would not have grown.
The write the spending bills. Notice that Obama's trillion dollar deficits dropped under a GOP house. Obama's best economic years were under a GOP house. Same with Clinton and GWB.
I know, I'm have a hell of a time trying to educate YOU. :lamo
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Actually Dubya with a gop congress was a complete disaster. Bush and the GOP congress had a chance to reduce the deficit and didn't.
 
Bullseye said:
Sorry, writing the longest, meandering post doesn't comprise proving me wrong; it demonstrates desperation and an attempt to baffle with bull**** since dazzling with brilliance isn't in your wheelhouse.
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Your failure to offer any rebuttal to the facts I have laid out is noted.

And your failure to provide ANY posts of mine that are "partisan" and show I "praised Obama like deity". Is also noted.
 
jaeger19 said:
Your failure to offer any rebuttal to the facts I have laid out is noted.

And your failure to provide ANY posts of mine that are "partisan" and show I "praised Obama like deity". Is also noted.
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What further "rebuttal" can I offer other than "look at your own damned chart"? 2016 -OBAMA'S LAST YEAR - is the lowest number, 2017 and 2018 show increases. The stock market shows more than 40% growth since trump was elected. following a two year period under Obama where it gained a total of about 1000 points. Unemployment was 4.6% when Obama left, it's almost a percentage point lower; and at record lows for "people of color". Labor force participation is up. We have almost 500,000 new manufacturing jobs.

If any President other than Trump had turned in such a quality performance on the economy you'd be creaming your jeans in delight.
 
bradt99 said:
Actually Dubya with a gop congress was a complete disaster. Bush and the GOP congress had a chance to reduce the deficit and didn't.
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It was ? A $160 BILLION deficit as a disaster? That about one-tenth of Obama's deficits with a Dem House. :lamo
 
Kushinator said:
Trump's economy isn't able to reach the levels he promised even with $1 trillion deficits at historically low rates of unemployment. Talk about a reality check.
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Trump never had a trillion dollar deficit.
 
Kushinator said:
Revisionist nonsense. The state of economic growth was dragged down due to a massive fall in oil prices and the plummet in investment that followed. Consumer sentiment didn't respond as the theory predicted... meaning the consumer chose to save the windfall of low energy prices. When the majority of economic growth was driven by oil production, a fall in it's price was detrimental to output. Do i expect you to be able to respond to this point with any semblance of a coherent thought? Nope....



You're cherry picking... choosing to highlight a blip in order to push a partisan narrative (without understanding the dynamics surrounding the 2016 economy. Your failure is for all to see.
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Sounds more like it's you cherry picking and regurgitating LW talking points.
 
Bullseye said:
It was ? A $160 BILLION deficit as a disaster? That about one-tenth of Obama's deficits with a Dem House. :lamo
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I'm glad you're defending the pedophile speaker Dennis Hastert. If it wasn't for 9/11, dems probably would've got the congress back in the 2002 midterm. It was very rare for a president to have his party control of all of congress for 6 years. Bush got lucky, because of an unfortunate tragic event.
 
bradt99 said:
I'm glad you're defending the pedophile speaker Dennis Hastert. If it wasn't for 9/11, dems probably would've got the congress back in the 2002 midterm. It was very rare for a president to have his party control of all of congress for 6 years. Bush got lucky, because of an unfortunate tragic event.
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Classic loony lib bull****. Go for the ad hominem. And toss in a "if only . . ." fairy story. :roll:
 
Bullseye said:
Classic loony lib bull****. Go for the ad hominem. And toss in a "if only . . ." fairy story. :roll:
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I'm not a liberal and go kiss your pedophile speakers ass.
 
Bush ran up deficits year after year and you all did **** about it!!! The dumb hick almost destroyed our economy.
 
bradt99 said:
Bush ran up deficits year after year and you all did **** about it!!! The dumb hick almost destroyed our economy.
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Sorry, not true. From 2003 when he got his tax bills through and a GOP controlled Congress until 2007 when the Dems took both houses, he dropped the deficit from over $500 billion to $160 billion. Then the Dems took over in 2007 and the Great Recession began.
 
Bullseye said:
Sorry, not true. From 2003 when he got his tax bills through and a GOP controlled Congress until 2007 when the Dems took both houses, he dropped the deficit from over $500 billion to $160 billion. Then the Dems took over in 2007 and the Great Recession began.
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Rewriting history I see. We still would've had our surplus if Gore was elected and maybe 9/11 never would've happened and we never would've been in Iraq. I can't believe some conservatives are still defending GW Bush. Heck most republican candidates don't want Bush around them campaigning for them. Trump doesn't even like GW Bush. Your former president is now just a horrible art painter who will go in history as the dumbest president alive.
 
Bullseye said:
What further "rebuttal" can I offer other than "look at your own damned chart"? 2016 -OBAMA'S LAST YEAR - is the lowest number, 2017 and 2018 show increases. The stock market shows more than 40% growth since trump was elected. following a two year period under Obama where it gained a total of about 1000 points. Unemployment was 4.6% when Obama left, it's almost a percentage point lower; and at record lows for "people of color". Labor force participation is up. We have almost 500,000 new manufacturing jobs.

If any President other than Trump had turned in such a quality performance on the economy you'd be creaming your jeans in delight.
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Yes.. look at the chart and you can obviously see that the economy is basically on the same trend as it was before Trump went into the white house. Its plain as day unless.. like yourself you ignore everything but what you want to see.

And since I am a Conservative.. and don't think the government is the be all end all of controlling the economy.. and especially the president... well no.. I would not "be creaming my jeans in delight".

As far as I am concerned.. its folks like myself.. who own businesses who are in large part what gets the economy going... Its folks like me that take the risk to expand and go into new areas or hire new employees that build the economy. Not the government. And not trump nor Obama. Nor any president.

But.. I guess if you are a right wing liberal.. well then its not surprising you think Trump is the reason for the economy. Instead of hardworking americans. According to you " the government built that.. not you"...
 
jaeger19 said:
Yes.. look at the chart and you can obviously see that the economy is basically on the same trend as it was before Trump went into the white house. Its plain as day unless.. like yourself you ignore everything but what you want to see.

And since I am a Conservative.. and don't think the government is the be all end all of controlling the economy.. and especially the president... well no.. I would not "be creaming my jeans in delight".

As far as I am concerned.. its folks like myself.. who own businesses who are in large part what gets the economy going... Its folks like me that take the risk to expand and go into new areas or hire new employees that build the economy. Not the government. And not trump nor Obama. Nor any president.

But.. I guess if you are a right wing liberal.. well then its not surprising you think Trump is the reason for the economy. Instead of hardworking americans. According to you " the government built that.. not you"...
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Ok, I give up. You're still not seeing what the chart actually shows, and continue to reiterate the same misconceptions.
 
bradt99 said:
Rewriting history I see. We still would've had our surplus if Gore was elected and maybe 9/11 never would've happened and we never would've been in Iraq. I can't believe some conservatives are still defending GW Bush. Heck most republican candidates don't want Bush around them campaigning for them. Trump doesn't even like GW Bush. Your former president is now just a horrible art painter who will go in history as the dumbest president alive.
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LOL, you accuse me of rewriting history and the spew that fantasy about "if Gore had been elected . . ." "most republican candidates"? You mean all one of them? The data I cited "defends" GWB.
 
Bullseye said:
LOL, you accuse me of rewriting history and the spew that fantasy about "if Gore had been elected . . ." "most republican candidates"? You mean all one of them? The data I cited "defends" GWB.
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Hell yes, I stand by if Gore were elected, we would've been better off. I mean every dem president that I've seen in office, the deficit declines. By the way, the tea party is nothing, but a damn joke.
 
bradt99 said:
Hell yes, I stand by if Gore were elected, we would've been better off. I mean every dem president that I've seen in office, the deficit declines. By the way, the tea party is nothing, but a damn joke.
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Yep, right after GOP took control of the House (and frequently the Senate).
 
jaeger19 said:
Yes.. look at the chart and you can obviously see that the economy is basically on the same trend as it was before Trump went into the white house. Its plain as day unless.. like yourself you ignore everything but what you want to see.

And since I am a Conservative.. and don't think the government is the be all end all of controlling the economy.. and especially the president... well no.. I would not "be creaming my jeans in delight".

As far as I am concerned.. its folks like myself.. who own businesses who are in large part what gets the economy going... Its folks like me that take the risk to expand and go into new areas or hire new employees that build the economy. Not the government. And not trump nor Obama. Nor any president.

But.. I guess if you are a right wing liberal.. well then its not surprising you think Trump is the reason for the economy. Instead of hardworking americans. According to you " the government built that.. not you"...
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Right wing liberal :lamo I like that. I prefer the progress—ive conservatism of Teddy Roosevelt, one of the Great Faces. His Bullmoose Party proved he should have never stepped aside for Taft 4 years earlier.
 
bradt99 said:
Hell yes, I stand by if Gore were elected, we would've been better off. I mean every dem president that I've seen in office, the deficit declines. By the way, the tea party is nothing, but a damn joke.
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The TEAt party you’re dismissing is led by Trump, a decade after its spawning by FOX.
 
Linc said:
Right wing liberal :lamo I like that. I prefer the progress—ive conservatism of Teddy Roosevelt, one of the Great Faces. His Bullmoose Party proved he should have never stepped aside for Taft 4 years earlier.
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Teddy was a true conservative.

Most of the so called conservatives.. are actually right wing liberals.

They like big government as long as its telling people who they can marry,, what medical decisions they can make, what they can imbibe, and its running a deficit for things they like.
 
Bullseye said:
Sounds more like it's you cherry picking and regurgitating LW talking points.
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You don't understand what cherry picking entails, which is why you've dove head first into it's invalidity. Failure to address my statement is noted.
 
Kushinator said:
You don't understand what cherry picking entails, which is why you've dove head first into it's invalidity. Failure to address my statement is noted.
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Insults work every time.
 
Bullseye said:
Sorry, not true. From 2003 when he got his tax bills through and a GOP controlled Congress until 2007 when the Dems took both houses, he dropped the deficit from over $500 billion to $160 billion. Then the Dems took over in 2007 and the Great Recession began.
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Those tax bills were partisan and never got a dem vote by the way and it added to the deficit. We had a good economy at the time, we didn't need them.
 
Bullseye said:
Ok, I give up. You're still not seeing what the chart actually shows, and continue to reiterate the same misconceptions.
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You give up? Does that mean you'll quit posting the same nonsense? Will you then find some other nonsense to post instead?
 
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