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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Is it better than Trump's plan to spend us into war and division?
    Which is worse, bankruptcy by socialistic vote buying or bankruptcy by defense spending?

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Which is worse, bankruptcy by socialistic vote buying or bankruptcy by defense spending?
    Probably divisive war mongering and ill executed trade wars are worse. At least with "socialism" we get something before going broke.
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    How much is Elizabeth Warren proposing to spend to finally make America a great nation? Here are some numbers totaling ten year costs to fund her proposals:

    1. Green New Deal - $94 trillion.
    2. Medicare for all - $32.6 trillion.
    3. Dealing with opioids - $700 billion.
    4. Cancelling student debt and offering free college - min. of $1.25 trillion.
    5. Universal child care - $700 billion.
    6. Reparations for slavery - $trillions?.
    7. Food, shelter, clothing, hospital care, schooling and other expenses for aliens not allowed to work in the US - $more trillions?
    8. Hiring thousands of new government officials to handle skyrocketing cases of illegal immigration, lawsuits agaisnst cops, and investigations into republican congressmen for every little hint of a misdemeanor - $ more billions?

    There is no limit to how much Pocahontas is willing to spend since it is not her money she will be spending (her money is hidden in carefully crafted overseas tax-exempt democrat foundations.)

    She plays to the general ignorance of the common voter by claiming the rich will be paying for the extravagant budget-smashing wild and crazy unrestrained government spending.
    Obviously sane people know she is Insincere, lying, or just plain FOS, yet they are willing to push reality aside and pretend to believe it can happen.

    Memo to insane people: Don’t believe the pixie dust merchants.

    In fact, keep believing it. She would make a great candidate. “Phochontas and the Flaming Phonies for Failure”
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Probably divisive war mongering and ill executed trade wars are worse. At least with "socialism" we get something before going broke.
    War mongering? Which of these wars do you disapprove of?

    Revolutionary War?
    Spanish-American War?
    Civil War?
    WW1?
    WW2?
    Korean War?
    Vietnam War?
    Grenada?
    Panama?
    1st Gulf War?
    Operation Desert Fox?
    2nd Gulf War?
    War in Afghanistan?
    Libyan War?
    Drug War?
    War on Terror?

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Probably divisive war mongering and ill executed trade wars are worse. At least with "socialism" we get something before going broke.
    Which of these social programs do you support:

    1. Heavy regulation of industries in the name of global warming?
    2. Paying every adult in the nation $1,000 per month until they can get on their feet?
    3. Paying out $14 trillion dollars to blacks in reparations over ten years?
    4. Medicare for all, including all illegals no matter how many end up here through continuously open borders?
    5. Taxing the pants off all rich people who do not have their riches hidden in tax-exempt foundations, trusts, untraceable overseas accounts, or other tax shelters?
    6. Free college for all?
    7. College debt forgiveness for all?
    8. Doubling the size of the SCOTUS in order to prevent conservative influence?
    9. Free abortions for all at the expense of abortion opponents?
    10. Spending $100 trillion dollars over ten years on bold new green energy projects?
    11. Eliminating the US debt ceiling and cancelling the US debt by government decree?

    Others?

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Let me simplify. Economics 101. Spend trillions of dollars each year more than can ever be hoped to be taken in by taxation and the nation goes bust. Did I miss anything?
    You missed oh, so much. As usual.

    We always spend more than we collect in taxation. And it's not a problem.

    Nations without debt in foreign currencies don't "go bust." You actually mentioned bankruptcy in a later post. There is no World Bankruptcy Court.

    Our government doesn't "borrow" private sector assets, it adds to them when it spends.

    Plus, your initial addition problem is absolutely ridiculous. Why have you not subtracted the trillions we all spend on healthcare, for instance? Universal healthcare, if we use any other country on Earth as a yardstick, will cost us less, not more, for better coverage.

    The whole OP is just another silly rant based on completely unrealistic numbers and a complete lack of understanding of how governments finance themselves.

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnfrmClevelan View Post
    You missed oh, so much. As usual.

    We always spend more than we collect in taxation. And it's not a problem.

    Nations without debt in foreign currencies don't "go bust." You actually mentioned bankruptcy in a later post. There is no World Bankruptcy Court.

    Our government doesn't "borrow" private sector assets, it adds to them when it spends.

    Plus, your initial addition problem is absolutely ridiculous. Why have you not subtracted the trillions we all spend on healthcare, for instance? Universal healthcare, if we use any other country on Earth as a yardstick, will cost us less, not more, for better coverage.

    The whole OP is just another silly rant based on completely unrealistic numbers and a complete lack of understanding of how governments finance themselves.

    Did I miss anything?
    Yes. In simple terms, if a government runs out of money the banks close and other nations refuse to lend them any more money on painless terms.

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    I agree. He should have said Fauxcahontas or Liawatha.

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

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    I agree. He should have said Fauxcahontas or Liawatha.
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    How much is Elizabeth Warren proposing to spend to finally make America a great nation? Here are some numbers totaling ten year costs to fund her proposals:

    1. Green New Deal - $94 trillion.
    2. Medicare for all - $32.6 trillion.
    3. Dealing with opioids - $700 billion.
    4. Cancelling student debt and offering free college - min. of $1.25 trillion.
    5. Universal child care - $700 billion.
    6. Reparations for slavery - $trillions?.
    7. Food, shelter, clothing, hospital care, schooling and other expenses for aliens not allowed to work in the US - $more trillions?
    8. Hiring thousands of new government officials to handle skyrocketing cases of illegal immigration, lawsuits agaisnst cops, and investigations into republican congressmen for every little hint of a misdemeanor - $ more billions?

    There is no limit to how much Pocahontas is willing to spend since it is not her money she will be spending (her money is hidden in carefully crafted overseas tax-exempt democrat foundations.)

    She plays to the general ignorance of the common voter by claiming the rich will be paying for the extravagant budget-smashing wild and crazy unrestrained government spending.
    I love the idea if it's voluntary. If the truncheons and machine guns come out, then I'm not such a fan.

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