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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Trump has rolled back some of Obama's hope and change alterations and regulations designed to transform America into a modern new age nation subservient to world government and without national identity.
    Quantify this beyond the FOX news propaganda. You see, your "hope and change" as insult is actually "steps and necessity" designed to keep America moving forward in a socioeconomic world that does not stand still no matter how badly most of you Conservatives prefer life to be.

    - Like it or not, the UN exists because we created it.
    - Like it or not, Global Warming is a real thing and Trump can't reverse time or change it from a "Liberal hoax" to a "Chinese hoax."
    - Like it or not, cheap labor is the name of the game in regards to Capitalism and the companies aren't coming back.

    Or is the real problem here that you simply do not like the reality and simply need to lash out and deny it like so much of the Conservative base? You know, like promoting capitalism as the best thing ever without understanding why the companies go abroad. You know, like those who recognized the failure of their Trickle Down ideology during the Great Recession. You know, like the moron coal miners who thought Trump would just make Global Warming go away in order to protect their dying jobs instead of rolling back regulations that gave the oil companies a tremendous and unnecessary boost. Or the idiot farmers who supported (supports) trump despite having farms full of illegal immigrants and needing Trump's bail out money to survive. Or the ignorant Middle Class who thought the tax-cuts were about their temporary handout and not the permanent gift to Trump's friends?

    No matter how much reality scares people like you, our country will always be called the United States of America and have a national identity. FOX News and Mr. Jesus only comforts the groomed ignorance.

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    What most voters seem ignorant of is that the 'rich' are not stupid.
    No, they aren't. They rely on the non-wealthy to be stupid so that they can exponentially increase their already bloated coffers. They conned Conservatives for two decades over Trickle-Down, only to prove their greed by laying off millions as bailed-out banks ceased homes and small businesses. And when they introduced the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which gave the Middle Class a temporary while giving the wealthy permanent, it was the average Conservatives once again who was conned while the GOP refrained from using the Trickle-Down terminology. No...they aren't the stupid ones. They are the ones who control Senators and Representatives. Now they truly own the White House.

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    Many, like Clinton, Epstein's clients and other rich democrats have their wealth tied up in tax-exempt foundations and tax shelters where the IRS will never get it.
    And your answer to this is to kiss a silver-spooned billionaire's ass who did and does the exact same thing with boldness and pride? - A man who infamously declared that he merely takes advantages of tax law, in which he and his kind created by purchasing favors from our political leaders? Your truly are lost within your nonsense.

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    I admit it is hard not to mock the all white privileged prevaricator claiming to be American Indian.
    Well, the empirical evidence proved that she has connection. So why is it that you political extremists seem determined to pretend otherwise? Even Bill John Baker, the current Chief of the Cherokee Nation, is only 3.1% Cherokee. It's the same BS that you people pulled when you insisted for eight+ years that Obama was a Kenyan-born Muslim who sympathized with terrorists. At some point I would think that shame and embarrassment would be words that actually mattered to you all.

    Defaulting to debunked birth certificate theories and personal degeneration (Pocahontas), as if claims haven't been empirically proven, shows the world that you haven't anything really to criticize in the first place. Even Trump recognized her truth and moved on from the school child's taunts. Before, it was because a non-white dared to get elected to the White House (and Trump was a champion birther). Today, it's because Trump is what you defend as your suitable representation, thus you need the other side to be just as inept and disgusting.

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    So the government steals wealth from some people and then uses that wealth to buy things. How does stealing result in a net benefit?
    (This might go faster if you didn't take an adversarial position on everything.)

    Why do you think that deficit spending is "stealing wealth"? Take a closer look at the transactions I described; this is spending without taxation, and people are earning money, not losing money.

    Instead of just immediately labeling something, try thinking through the issue first. "Why do I think this is stealing?" for instance.
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnfrmClevelan View Post
    (This might go faster if you didn't take an adversarial position on everything.)

    Why do you think that deficit spending is "stealing wealth"? Take a closer look at the transactions I described; this is spending without taxation, and people are earning money, not losing money.

    Instead of just immediately labeling something, try thinking through the issue first. "Why do I think this is stealing?" for instance.
    Good question. Why is counterfeiting a crime?

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Good question. Why is counterfeiting a crime?
    Here's a question for you: do you have any living brain cells?
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnfrmClevelan View Post
    Here's a question for you: do you have any living brain cells?
    Answer: yes.

    So why is counterfeiting a crime?

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Answer: yes.
    A question for another debate.

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    So why is counterfeiting a crime?
    Counterfeiting has nothing to do with this subject.
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnfrmClevelan View Post
    A question for another debate.

    Counterfeiting has nothing to do with this subject.
    I understand why you are afraid to answer.

    But it's a good question for MMT'ers. Why should counterfeiting be a crime. The counterfeiter causes more production. He buys things that would not otherwise be bought. The counterfeiter is actually doing a public service, if one believes in MMT.

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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    I understand why you are afraid to answer.

    But it's a good question for MMT'ers. Why should counterfeiting be a crime. The counterfeiter causes more production. He buys things that would not otherwise be bought. The counterfeiter is actually doing a public service, if one believes in MMT.
    You think that the government somehow counterfeits its own currency? Look up the definition of "counterfeit" before you make any more idiotic assertions.

    How do you think money comes into being, anyway?
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    Re: Pocahontas Warren's plan to spend America into peace, prosperity and happiness for all

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnfrmClevelan View Post
    You think that the government somehow counterfeits its own currency? Look up the definition of "counterfeit" before you make any more idiotic assertions.

    How do you think money comes into being, anyway?
    No I don't think the government counterfeits. But why should counterfeiting be a crime. It would seem to be helpful to the economy. More demand, right?

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