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Study Finds Trump Tax Cuts Failed to Do Anything But Give Rich People Money

ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, because the beauty of democracy is that the majority (those below $X in income or $Y net worth) can vote to give themselves a "fair share" of the income and/or net worth of others (via taxation) and, of course, exempt themselves (from such taxation).
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2 cents on every dollar.

Sorry I dont particularly give a **** how these rich assholes feel about it.
 
The problem with the left is that they are constantly carving out swaths of people to demonize. Like the rich.
 
Crystal said:
The problem with the left is that they are constantly carving out swaths of people to demonize. Like the rich.
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The problem with the right is they misconstrue everyone as the same as the rich, and that things need to be fair, and appeal to some misguided notion about American exceptionalism.

This is a society. The rich have overwhelmingly demonized the poor. They overwhelmingly have destroyed the middle class. They have overwhelmingly eviscerated benefits like profit sharing, unions, stock options, employee ownership, healthcare, wage increases, etc.

What exactly do you ****ing people think we owe them? Why should I ****ing vote to give them a tax break when the rich have single handedly demolished the prosperity of this nation?

Your overwhelming ignorance of the truth of how the rich a t is par for the course with you right wingers.
 
Obscurity said:
The problem with the right is they misconstrue everyone as the same as the rich, and that things need to be fair, and appeal to some misguided notion about American exceptionalism.

This is a society. The rich have overwhelmingly demonized the poor. They overwhelmingly have destroyed the middle class. They have overwhelmingly eviscerated benefits like profit sharing, unions, stock options, employee ownership, healthcare, wage increases, etc.

What exactly do you ****ing people think we owe them? Why should I ****ing vote to give them a tax break when the rich have single handedly demolished the prosperity of this nation?

Your overwhelming ignorance of the truth of how the rich a t is par for the course with you right wingers.
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Democrats have destroyed the middle class. You sent all the jobs overseas!
 
Crystal said:
Democrats have destroyed the middle class. You sent all the jobs overseas!
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You're ignorant of reality. Open trade deals are a two way street between republicans and dems and you know that.

You also need to address my points, and you need to ****ing do it now. It's not the dems who ended the things that enabled a strong middle class.

It was the rich.

Address it.
 
The democrats destroyed the middle class. Deal with it.
 
Obscurity said:
You're ignorant of reality. Open trade deals are a two way street between republicans and dems and you know that.

You also need to address my points, and you need to ****ing do it now. It's not the dems who ended the things that enabled a strong middle class.

It was the rich.

Address it.
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Look at an electoral map (red/blue) by county - which party gets its support overwhelmingly from the more wealthy urban areas in the US?

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ttwtt78640 said:
Look at an electoral map (red/blue) by county - which party gets its support overwhelmingly from the more wealthy urban areas in the US?

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I dont give a **** who voted for trump.

My point stands. The rich, the propertied class, the business owners and executives eviscerated the middle class.

They ended the things I listed above.

Do you seriously think I give a **** about that map? Trump was elected by acres. Big ****ing deal.
 
Crystal said:
The democrats destroyed the middle class. Deal with it.
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You're lying.

Address my God damned points.

The rich ended benefits. The rich ended profit shares. The rich cut pensions, unions. The rich ended employee ownership.

No democrat went into a big company and said end the **** that made a strong middle class.

You need to change your lean. Your bias is on fully ****ing display and you're wilfully ignorant.
 
Obscurity said:
You're lying.

Address my God damned points.

The rich ended benefits. The rich ended profit shares. The rich cut pensions, unions. The rich ended employee ownership.

No democrat went into a big company and said end the **** that made a strong middle class.

You need to change your lean. Your bias is on fully ****ing display and you're wilfully ignorant.
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The democrats ended the middle class.
 
Democrats ended the middle class.
 
Crystal said:
The democrats ended the middle class.
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Funny, but I still seem to be here along with my friends and family, maybe the news hasn't made the rounds in my neck of the woods.
 
Obscurity said:
I dont give a **** who voted for trump.

My point stands. The rich, the propertied class, the business owners and executives eviscerated the middle class.

They ended the things I listed above.

Do you seriously think I give a **** about that map? Trump was elected by acres. Big ****ing deal.
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Less **** more substance. Trump is but one rich person who ran one time as a republicant. Making your entire rant be about Trump when you started out bashing "the rich and business owners" rings hollow.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Less **** more substance. Trump is but one rich person who ran one time as a republicant. Making your entire rant be about Trump when you started out bashing "the rich and business owners" rings hollow.
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What rings hollow is ignoring what the rich did to this country.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Such as paid most of the income taxes and provided most folks with job opportunities?
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Such as eliminated profit shares. Insurance. Vacation time and pay. Employee stock and ownership options. Pensions.

That's what the rich ended. Providing jobs isn't enough.
 
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Winston said:
Wow, so you mean the Trump cuts behaved the same as the Reagan and Bush cuts before them? No way.
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Yes, but just put on a red trucker hat and it all goes away.

Bullseye said:
If it was worth the time I'd dig up all the other studies that show those tax cuts benefits a huge percentage of all taxpayers. Not worth the effort, facts would be involved and liberals don't do facts. :cool
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See?
 
The tax cut enacted during the Administration of Mr. Ronald Reagan was reasonably successful. That was due, in great measure, to the economic factors in play at that time. Unfortunately, the simplistic 'Tax cut = Improved economy' concept was later applied at times when the economic factors were not the same.

This maps nicely onto the following. Pitch comes in high, batter swings high, hits home run. Pitch comes in low, batter swings high ... .

Our modern economic structures and mechanisms, their functions and their interactions are complex.

'Nuff said.
 
MTAtech said:
[h=1]Study Finds Trump Tax Cuts Failed to Do Anything But Give Rich People Money[/h]
Call me not-surprised. The advocates of tax-cuts said that miracles will happen if we passed this. Well, the miracles didn't happen.
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Call you a typical liberal as you believe people keeping more of what they earn is a gift from the federal gov't who apparently owns that money in your world? Stunning how it is always about the federal bureaucrats getting more money and not the taxpayers keeping more of what they earn in that mind of yours.

What is it about the liberal mind that causes people like you to be envious of other people keeping keeping more of what they earn?
 
MTAtech said:
Study Finds Trump Tax Cuts Failed to Do Anything But Give Rich People Money


Call me not-surprised. The advocates of tax-cuts said that miracles will happen if we passed this. Well, the miracles didn't happen.
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Another nail in the liberal coffin from Treasury, Personal income tax revenue 2019 annualized (1st QTR) was 1.660.8 vs. 1583.9 in first quarter 2018 with tax cuts, wonder how that happened???

Corporate taxes 162.0 vs. 149.0 in 2018(First Qtr.)

Trump job creating economy benefiting revenue to Federal gov't in both personal and corporate profits,as both numbers beat 2018 annual numbers, BEA.gov

What say you MTA?
 
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