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Current US Federal Budget Deficit

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This website analyzes the budget and forecasts the deficit. The deficit is heading to well over a $Trillion.

Current US Federal Budget Deficit: Causes, Effects

The U.S. federal budget deficit for fiscal year 2020 is $1.103 trillion. FY 2020 covers October 1, 2019, through September 30, 2020. The deficit occurs because the U.S. government spending of $4.746 trillion is higher than its revenue of $3.643 trillion.

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Many people blame the deficits on entitlement programs. But that's not supported by the budget. These enormous deficits are the result of three factors.

First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror. It's added $2.4 trillion to the debt since 2001. It almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $111.9 billion in 2003 to a peak of $150.8 billion in 2019. That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending, and increases for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

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The Trump administration will set new records of defense spending. It is estimated to reach $989 billion. That adds spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

U.S. military spending is greater than those of the next 10 largest government expenditures combined. It's four times greater than China's military budget, and 10 times bigger than Russia's defense spending. It's difficult to reduce the budget deficit without cutting U.S. defense spending.

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Second is the impact of tax cuts. They immediately reduce revenue for each dollar cut. Proponents of supply-side economics argue that the government will recoup that loss over the long term by boosting economic growth and the tax base. But the National Bureau of Economic Research found that only 17% of the revenue from income tax cuts was regained. It also found that 50% of the revenue from corporate tax cuts was lost.

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This website analyzes the budget and forecasts the deficit. The deficit is heading to well over a $Trillion.

Current US Federal Budget Deficit: Causes, Effects

The U.S. federal budget deficit for fiscal year 2020 is $1.103 trillion. FY 2020 covers October 1, 2019, through September 30, 2020. The deficit occurs because the U.S. government spending of $4.746 trillion is higher than its revenue of $3.643 trillion.

...
Many people blame the deficits on entitlement programs. But that's not supported by the budget. These enormous deficits are the result of three factors.

First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror. It's added $2.4 trillion to the debt since 2001. It almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $111.9 billion in 2003 to a peak of $150.8 billion in 2019. That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending, and increases for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

...
The Trump administration will set new records of defense spending. It is estimated to reach $989 billion. That adds spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

U.S. military spending is greater than those of the next 10 largest government expenditures combined. It's four times greater than China's military budget, and 10 times bigger than Russia's defense spending. It's difficult to reduce the budget deficit without cutting U.S. defense spending.

...
Second is the impact of tax cuts. They immediately reduce revenue for each dollar cut. Proponents of supply-side economics argue that the government will recoup that loss over the long term by boosting economic growth and the tax base. But the National Bureau of Economic Research found that only 17% of the revenue from income tax cuts was regained. It also found that 50% of the revenue from corporate tax cuts was lost.

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The US government has always had a spending problem.
 
The US government has always had a spending problem.

Yet it seems that Republicans despite all their talk seem to be the worst offenders. Why do you guys only care about the deficit and government finances when a Dem is president? Where's the extreme outrage over Trump and the Republican Congress' deficit spending?

Republicans never run out of other people's money when it's things they want.
 
Yet it seems that Republicans despite all their talk seem to be the worst offenders. Why do you guys only care about the deficit and government finances when a Dem is president? Where's the extreme outrage over Trump and the Republican Congress' deficit spending?

Republicans never run out of other people's money when it's things they want.

Seeing as I've not voice either stance on this thread, or any other to my knowledge. I do not see where you might be getting such an opinion from.

My stance on this is just as plane as anyone else's. This country has always had a spending problem no matter the case.
 
Seeing as I've not voice either stance on this thread, or any other to my knowledge. I do not see where you might be getting such an opinion from.

My stance on this is just as plane as anyone else's. This country has always had a spending problem no matter the case.

Glad to hear that your appalled at Trump's deficit spending.
 
The US government has always had a spending problem.
And the guy who said he'd payoff the debt in eight years...

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This website analyzes the budget and forecasts the deficit. The deficit is heading to well over a $Trillion.

Current US Federal Budget Deficit: Causes, Effects

The U.S. federal budget deficit for fiscal year 2020 is $1.103 trillion. FY 2020 covers October 1, 2019, through September 30, 2020. The deficit occurs because the U.S. government spending of $4.746 trillion is higher than its revenue of $3.643 trillion.

...
Many people blame the deficits on entitlement programs. But that's not supported by the budget. These enormous deficits are the result of three factors.

First, the attacks on 9/11 led to the War on Terror. It's added $2.4 trillion to the debt since 2001. It almost doubled annual military spending. It rose from $111.9 billion in 2003 to a peak of $150.8 billion in 2019. That includes the defense department budget and off-budget emergency spending, and increases for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

...
The Trump administration will set new records of defense spending. It is estimated to reach $989 billion. That adds spending for departments that support defense, such as Homeland Security, and the National Nuclear Security Administration.

U.S. military spending is greater than those of the next 10 largest government expenditures combined. It's four times greater than China's military budget, and 10 times bigger than Russia's defense spending. It's difficult to reduce the budget deficit without cutting U.S. defense spending.

...
Second is the impact of tax cuts. They immediately reduce revenue for each dollar cut. Proponents of supply-side economics argue that the government will recoup that loss over the long term by boosting economic growth and the tax base. But the National Bureau of Economic Research found that only 17% of the revenue from income tax cuts was regained. It also found that 50% of the revenue from corporate tax cuts was lost.

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Yes its a problem and Trump has made it worse. But at least dems now control the House so I am sure they will reign in spending.
 
When it comes to the budget and deficit, why do so many attribute it to the sitting President when all spending originates in the House? In fact the GOP house sued the Obama admin over payments for obamacare on that very issue? We on the right love to blame the Obama admin for the doubling of the debt when in truth, all but two years of the Obama admin the purse strings were under GOP control. :( Sure the house budget has to reconciled with the senate and the President has to sign, but as we have recently seen that comes with it's own pressures. To further the point the "budget" suggested by the executive branch are DOA and are meant only to show more or less support of a program. A laughable suggestion without a line item veto. Can't we be at least a little bit intellectually honest with ourselves?
 
When it comes to the budget and deficit, why do so many attribute it to the sitting President when all spending originates in the House? In fact the GOP house sued the Obama admin over payments for obamacare on that very issue? We on the right love to blame the Obama admin for the doubling of the debt when in truth, all but two years of the Obama admin the purse strings were under GOP control. :( Sure the house budget has to reconciled with the senate and the President has to sign, but as we have recently seen that comes with it's own pressures. To further the point the "budget" suggested by the executive branch are DOA and are meant only to show more or less support of a program. A laughable suggestion without a line item veto. Can't we be at least a little bit intellectually honest with ourselves?
What I see is Republicans, who were deficit hawks when Obama was trying to stimulate the economy when unemployment was 9%, now don't care about deficits when unemployment is at a 50 year low. It shows us Republican's true colors.
 
What I see is Republicans, who were deficit hawks when Obama was trying to stimulate the economy when unemployment was 9%, now don't care about deficits when unemployment is at a 50 year low. It shows us Republican's true colors.

Yes and the same could be the said of the Democrats who are now trying to feign being deficit hawks. Both parties, not unlike the cable driven entertainment news placate to their viewers. The truth is it is the nature of politics and man true be self perpetuating. Government always gets bigger, and congressmen are sent to bring home the pork. To bad so many want to continue to play partisan politics and pretend that only the other party is guilty all while offering more and more spending to their own base.
 
Yes and the same could be the said of the Democrats who are now trying to feign being deficit hawks.

You should reduce deficits when the unemployment rate falls. Or do you somehow disagree?
 
Glad to hear that your appalled at Trump's deficit spending.
Glad to see that you're still flunking out of those reading comprehension courses.

I don't have time for your stupidity today. So this is the last you'll hear from me on this thread.
 
And the guy who said he'd payoff the debt in eight years...

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Seeing as the graph is lying to my face about 2012 through 2014. I don't really care for what someone says they plan on and what actually happens.
 
When it comes to the budget and deficit, why do so many attribute it to the sitting President when all spending originates in the House? In fact the GOP house sued the Obama admin over payments for obamacare on that very issue? We on the right love to blame the Obama admin for the doubling of the debt when in truth, all but two years of the Obama admin the purse strings were under GOP control. :( Sure the house budget has to reconciled with the senate and the President has to sign, but as we have recently seen that comes with it's own pressures. To further the point the "budget" suggested by the executive branch are DOA and are meant only to show more or less support of a program. A laughable suggestion without a line item veto. Can't we be at least a little bit intellectually honest with ourselves?

Point well-taken about Congressional budgets, but the Republicans just had control of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency for two years, and they did nothing to cut spending or reduce the deficit. They did the opposite.
 
Yes its a problem and Trump has made it worse. But at least dems now control the House so I am sure they will reign in spending.

The original link, if you read it, stated that it's very difficult to bring down deficits without decreasing military spending. Trump and the Republicans increased military spending, so I don't think they would sign any military cuts. The link also mentioned that the US spends more on the military than the next 10 countries combined.

I'm sure the Dems would love to reverse the deficit-inflating tax cuts as well, and/or raise taxes on the wealthy, but I don't think they'll get any of those proposals signed either.
 
The original link, if you read it, stated that it's very difficult to bring down deficits without decreasing military spending. Trump and the Republicans increased military spending, so I don't think they would sign any military cuts. The link also mentioned that the US spends more on the military than the next 10 countries combined.

I'm sure the Dems would love to reverse the deficit-inflating tax cuts as well, and/or raise taxes on the wealthy, but I don't think they'll get any of those proposals signed either.

The democrats are actually trumpeting a $2 trillion infrastructure plan. And you know damn well thats not going to be paid for.
 
Sirs and ladies:

Absent from this thread is a consideration of the importance -- the problem, if you will -- of the actual size of the federal debt. There has been a plethora of party political palaver from proponents of our pair of parties [Ed.: and a couple of minor parties,] about how terrible it is, but that can be discounted by any rational outside observer.

There remains a question of how much debt, say as a percent of the GDP, is too much. Is federal debt concern a tempest in a teapot?

To begin, let's start with personal debt. Too much is when the payment of the interest on the balance becomes uncomfortable.

What say you?
 
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The democrats are actually trumpeting a $2 trillion infrastructure plan. And you know damn well thats not going to be paid for.

I'm in agreement. I would prefer to see a much more scaled-down infrastructure plan, with higher federal gas tax and higher road taxes for trucks. That would result in more taxes for those that actually use and abuse the roads most. If gas prices were $7 per gallon, people would pursue alternatives, such as electric cars, along with this solar charging system.

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Sirs and ladies:

Absent from this thread is a consideration of the importance -- the problem, if you will -- of the actual size of the federal debt. There has been a plethora of party political palaver from proponents of our pair of parties [Ed.: and a couple of minor parties,] about how terrible it is, but that can be discounted by any rational outside observer.

There remains a question of how much debt, say as a percent of the GDP, is too much. Is federal debt concern a tempest in a teapot?

To begin, let's start with personal debt. Too much is when the payment of the interest on the balance becomes uncomfortable.

What say you?

When the deficit is positive, there is no flexibility, and the debt can only go UP. Under your scenario, if we determine that the GOP/Debt ratio is too high, there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.
 
When the deficit is positive, there is no flexibility, and the debt can only go UP. Under your scenario, if we determine that the GOP/Debt ratio is too high, there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.

What effect do you believe the 263,000 NEW JOBS created in April and the growing GDP going to have on the deficit which through the first 6 months of fiscal year 2019 is up 15% far below the projected trillion dollar deficits and that 15% growth is down from your posts regarding deficit growth in the first five months of fiscal year 2019. Are you going to be mature enough to admit being wrong when the deficit comes in less than 2018?
 
What effect do you believe the 263,000 NEW JOBS created in April and the growing GDP going to have on the deficit which through the first 6 months of fiscal year 2019 is up 15% far below the projected trillion dollar deficits and that 15% growth is down from your posts regarding deficit growth in the first five months of fiscal year 2019. Are you going to be mature enough to admit being wrong when the deficit comes in less than 2018?

Considering that the month of February was the highest US Federal deficit ever, I think you're the one that is going to have to show some maturity, and admit that you were wrong. But we all know that your blinders are totally constricting.
 
Considering that the month of February was the highest US Federal deficit ever, I think you're the one that is going to have to show some maturity, and admit that you were wrong. But we all know that your blinders are totally constricting.

Don't see an answer to the question, what affect do you believe the 263,000 new taxpayers and 3.2% GDP growth are going to have on the deficit? Highest deficit ever doesn't mean a lot when you look at context and only one month which happened to be the first part of the year and typically high deficits. when you say highest ever, by how much? Do monthly deficits really matter? In your world do deficits really matter since Obama had 9.3 trillion of them added to the debt and Trump isn't going to come close?

Are you ever going to respond to how interest rate hikes affect the deficit? How about responding to Trump's budget proposals that cut departments and discretionary spending?? You have a very selective, very partisan point of view on this issue and others showing that you aren't an independent at all
 
When the deficit is positive, there is no flexibility, and the debt can only go UP. Under your scenario, if we determine that the GOP/Debt ratio is too high, there isn't a damn thing we can do about it.

Sir, I'm going to pull a Mr. William Clinton here, if you recall his question regarding the meaning of 'is'. In this case, it's the word 'we' that requires unpacking. If 'we' includes a decent majority of federal congressmen and the President of the United States of America, there's any number of things which can be done to corral that particular bucking bronco.

That said, my question remains unaddressed. How much national debt is too much national debt?

Regards.
 
Sir, I'm going to pull a Mr. William Clinton here, if you recall his question regarding the meaning of 'is'. In this case, it's the word 'we' that requires unpacking. If 'we' includes a decent majority of federal congressmen and the President of the United States of America, there's any number of things which can be done to corral that particular bucking bronco.

That said, my question remains unaddressed. How much national debt is too much national debt?

Regards.

As long as the deficit is positive, the debt continues to rise. Why not shoot for a balanced deficit, like Mr William Clinton achieved, so that the debt can be controlled?
 
Don't see an answer to the question, what affect do you believe the 263,000 new taxpayers and 3.2% GDP growth are going to have on the deficit? Highest deficit ever doesn't mean a lot when you look at context and only one month which happened to be the first part of the year and typically high deficits. when you say highest ever, by how much? Do monthly deficits really matter? In your world do deficits really matter since Obama had 9.3 trillion of them added to the debt and Trump isn't going to come close?

Are you ever going to respond to how interest rate hikes affect the deficit? How about responding to Trump's budget proposals that cut departments and discretionary spending?? You have a very selective, very partisan point of view on this issue and others showing that you aren't an independent at all

The Billionaire tax cuts will assure that the deficit continues to rise. Others have pointed out, quite aptly, that receipts aren't high enough to balance the lost revenue from the tax cuts. This is simply FACT that you choose to ignore. Obama was running a very healthy economy, without skyrocketing the deficit.
 
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