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Fox News Poll: What bugs voters most about taxes? Rich not paying enough

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FOX News, March 27, 2019

According to a Fox News Poll released Wednesday, voters' top tax concern isn't how much they pay. Instead, they are most concerned about the rich not paying enough (34 percent)...

Compared to 2014, the last time the question was asked, there has been an increase in voters who are troubled that the rich aren't paying enough (+6 points). The shift in frustration comes mainly from self-identified liberals (+20) and voters under age 30 (+14 points). However, it's not limited to traditional left-leaning groups -- voters ages 65 and over (+14), voters earning $50k and over (+11), and whites without a college degree (+9) are also increasingly bothered by the wealthy not pulling their weight...

"One underappreciated aspect of the past two years is the Democrats have fought the president to a draw on taxes," says Republican pollster Daron Shaw, who conducts the Fox News Poll with Democrat Chris Anderson. "While the Democrats managed to regain their edge on health care, they also reframed the tax debate in terms of fairness and breaks for the wealthy, which has prevented President Trump and the GOP from gaining any substantial political benefit from their tax reform."

In December 2017, President Trump marked a campaign promise off his list as the Republican-led Congress passed a sweeping tax reform bill. At that time, former House Speaker Paul Ryan said, "The message to the hardworking taxpayers of America is: Your tax relief is on its way. That is what's happening here. The message to the families in America who have been struggling, paycheck and paycheck -- your tax rates are going down and your paychecks are going up."

Voters don't entirely share Ryan's view...

Trump's job performance on taxes has taken a hit since last year. In March 2018, more voters approved than disapproved of him on taxes by 2 points (48-46 percent). Today, he is underwater by 6 (42-48 percent)...

"Over a year since Trump signed his tax cuts into law, voters just aren't feeling it," says Anderson. "His job approval for handling taxes is down, while more people say their taxes are too high and the rich aren't paying their fair share." ...

Trump broke with decades-long precedence when he declined to release his tax returns during the 2016 presidential campaign. He continues to decline to make them public.

But voters want transparency. Three-quarters overall (74 percent) and over half of Republicans (54 percent) believe that, in general, the president of the United States should be required to release his or her tax returns...

The Democratic-led House passed a comprehensive proposal March 8 that would require the disclosure of presidential tax returns.

Fox News Poll: What bugs voters most about taxes? Rich not paying enough | Fox News

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This is not only significant because of what it says, but because FOX is saying it. The Republican tax scam, that began with Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign, may be coming to an end. It is about time. Since Jimmy Carter left office in 1980 the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) has grown from 31% in 1980 to 105% in 2018.

National Debt by Year: Compared to GDP and Major Events

Since the inauguration of Ronald Reagan in 1981 the rich have paid lower taxes on more money, while the national debt had grown and middle class incomes have not.

The American people are finally learning that tax cuts for the rich do not benefit people who are not rich. For us, lower taxes on the rich mean higher taxes on us, cuts in domestic spending programs that benefit us, and more national debt.
 
In addition, the new poll finds 55 percent of voters think their taxes are “too high,” and that’s about where that number has stood since the Fox News Poll first asked the question 15 years ago (2004).

However, while the overall numbers held steady, a role reversal recently took place in the background.

Consider this: The number of Democrats who say their taxes are too high is 59 percent. It was 49 percent in 2018 and 45 percent in 2017. That’s a 14-point increase since Trump won.

An even bigger swing happened among Republicans -- in the opposite direction. Sixty-eight percent said their taxes were too high in 2017 and 59 percent in 2018. Now, 50 percent feel that way. That’s an 18-point drop since their candidate won, and a 9-point decrease since passage of the GOP tax reform bill.

“No one ever claimed that partisans are logically consistent,” says Shaw. “With a Republican president, Republican voters are less likely to think their tax burden is unfair. Meanwhile, with Trump in the White House Democrats think taxes are too high -- but they also support substantial increases in federal spending.”

Hacks.
 
Highest budget deficit in American history so rich Trumpists can get a tax break when they don't even need it
 
Highest budget deficit in American history so rich Trumpists can get a tax break when they don't even need it

And the poor Trumpists are so stupid that they don't know that they are victims of Trump's biggest con.
 
And the poor Trumpists are so stupid that they don't know that they are victims of Trump's biggest con.

So you think class envy, jealousy are winning campaign issues when the top 1% already pay 40% of the federal income taxes? That isn't enough for you? Tell me exactly what percentage of one's income should go to the federal, state and local gov't in the form of taxes?

Keep promoting class warfare rhetoric and promoting negativity as the Trump economic results are receiving favorable poll numbers
 
And the poor Trumpists are so stupid that they don't know that they are victims of Trump's biggest con.

Yep, but to be fair Cons been defending and carrying the weathy's water for 15-20 years now.

It is 1 of the most baffling things about the modern day conservative. That they willingly cut their own throats, their taxes go up, and their social safety nets are going away. But hey at least the rich are getting richer, for some reason that seems to be important to the Middle Class Conservative.
 
So you think class envy, jealousy are winning campaign issues when the top 1% already pay 40% of the federal income taxes? That isn't enough for you? Tell me exactly what percentage of one's income should go to the federal, state and local gov't in the form of taxes?

Keep promoting class warfare rhetoric and promoting negativity as the Trump economic results are receiving favorable poll numbers


You guys just continue to whip out the same idiotic talking points. Like robots, just spit it out. All you pathetic people do is deflect. THere is not a shred of an argument in that dumb post of yours
 
So you think class envy, jealousy are winning campaign issues when the top 1% already pay 40% of the federal income taxes? That isn't enough for you? Tell me exactly what percentage of one's income should go to the federal, state and local gov't in the form of taxes?

Keep promoting class warfare rhetoric and promoting negativity as the Trump economic results are receiving favorable poll numbers

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You guys just continue to whip out the same idiotic talking points. Like robots, just spit it out. All you pathetic people do is deflect. THere is not a shred of an argument in that dumb post of yours

Right, reality doesn't exist in that liberal world of yours as actual data is irrelevant. deflecting from what? reality? You people have yet to post any factual data at all so why don't you tell me exactly what is wrong with my post, are the top 1% paying most of the Federal Income Taxes? Aren't approximately 50% of income earning Americans paying ZERO in FIT?
 

Are you ever going to answer the question as to what percentage of one's income should go to federal, state, and local taxes?

Is there some reason that approximately 50% of income earners aren't paying any FIT yet you focus on the rich?

Sanders is a joke, a multi millionaire who with his wife made their fortune in the economic model he is now trying to destroy?

So tell me how does taxing the rich more equal out the wealth in this country? Is it your contention that the federal taxpayers should subsidize working Americans to make their income equal to those evil rich people?

Are you truly this clueless about the economics in this country and that we have a growing economy not a finite one and we have equal opportunity but not equal outcome?
 
Yep, but to be fair Cons been defending and carrying the weathy's water for 15-20 years now.

It is 1 of the most baffling things about the modern day conservative. That they willingly cut their own throats, their taxes go up, and their social safety nets are going away. But hey at least the rich are getting richer, for some reason that seems to be important to the Middle Class Conservative.

There are economic issues and there are social issues. Lower income white Republicans usually support programs that obviously help them. These include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment compensation, and usually Medicaid and minimum wage laws.

They distrust the Democrats on social issues, and particularly racial issues. They worry about black crime, oppose affirmative action policies, and know that by competing for jobs immigrants depress wages.

In addition, FOX News and Rush Limbaugh will get them worked up over issues that do not effect them directly, like an obscure college professor somewhere who says something outrageous, such as "Whites should stop having children."

Elizabeth Warren is talking about reparations for blacks. That will surely help the Republicans in 2020.
 
Are you ever going to answer the question as to what percentage of one's income should go to federal, state, and local taxes?

Is there some reason that approximately 50% of income earners aren't paying any FIT yet you focus on the rich?

Sanders is a joke, a multi millionaire who with his wife made their fortune in the economic model he is now trying to destroy?

So tell me how does taxing the rich more equal out the wealth in this country? Is it your contention that the federal taxpayers should subsidize working Americans to make their income equal to those evil rich people?

Are you truly this clueless about the economics in this country and that we have a growing economy not a finite one and we have equal opportunity but not equal outcome?

During the Eisenhower administration the top tax rate was 91%. That seems about right to me.
 
“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

― Warren Buffett

Blaming the Democrats for class war is like accusing a woman of rape when she fights back.
 
Right, reality doesn't exist in that liberal world of yours as actual data is irrelevant. deflecting from what? reality? You people have yet to post any factual data at all so why don't you tell me exactly what is wrong with my post, are the top 1% paying most of the Federal Income Taxes? Aren't approximately 50% of income earning Americans paying ZERO in FIT?

I have been posting factual data in response to your cliches ever since we began to argue here. You tell me that my facts are nothing but book learning, that means nothing to you. Facts cannot enter closed and narrow minds.
 
Instead of fighting over who pays what....


How about we deal with the real issue...which, why do we get so little for our tax dollars?
 
There are economic issues and there are social issues. Lower income white Republicans usually support programs that obviously help them. These include Social Security, Medicare, unemployment compensation, and usually Medicaid and minimum wage laws.

They distrust the Democrats on social issues, and particularly racial issues. They worry about black crime, oppose affirmative action policies, and know that by competing for jobs immigrants depress wages.

In addition, FOX News and Rush Limbaugh will get them worked up over issues that do not effect them directly, like an obscure college professor somewhere who says something outrageous, such as "Whites should stop having children."

Elizabeth Warren is talking about reparations for blacks. That will surely help the Republicans in 2020.

I agree with what you said here. But I still find it fascinating how stupid are and willing Middle Class Republicans cut their own throats, and here's the kicker it happens over and over but the still vote for the Republican politicians who are cutting their throats. I know, it's mostly because of social issues, they hate gays, immigrants etc.. But after seeing their police forces cut, the public schools cut, and their health care take away by Republican politicians protecting the rich you would hope they'd finally caught on to the fact the rich do NOT care about security(they have their own)schools(their kids go to private) and they the best heath care money can buy...

Kansas is the best example of Republican insane tax cuts policy.. The rich made out like bandits and the lower classes saw their hospitals close and schools have to go to having classes only 3 or 4 days a week.
 
During the Eisenhower administration the top tax rate was 91%. That seems about right to me.

Yep, as long as such taxation rates do not apply to your own income. Your generousity with the income of others is noted. Why not just make it 100% and whip out your calculator to see how much of a windfall that would create?
 
During the Eisenhower administration the top tax rate was 91%. That seems about right to me.
This isn't the 50s! Regardless of what the tax rate was what was the effective rate that people actually paid and what were state and local taxes at that time?

There obviously is a reason that you want the rich to pay more taxes but the question is why don't you want the 50% of income earners that aren't paying any federal income tax to pay at least something?

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Yep, as long as such taxation rates do not apply to your own income. Your generousity with the income of others is noted. Why not just make it 100% and whip out your calculator to see how much of a windfall that would create?

That.
 
During the Eisenhower administration the top tax rate was 91%. That seems about right to me.

By what formula do you calculate what one's fair share should be?
 
I have been posting factual data in response to your cliches ever since we began to argue here. You tell me that my facts are nothing but book learning, that means nothing to you. Facts cannot enter closed and narrow minds.
The difference between your post and my post in that my post include context yours not so much

now answer the question what percentage of one's income should go to federal, state, and local taxes? In addition why is your focus totally on federal income taxes and not the other federal taxes collected or state and local government revenues?

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Instead of fighting over who pays what....


How about we deal with the real issue...which, why do we get so little for our tax dollars?

A lot of the money goes to military spending and to servicing the debts incurred under Republican administrations, beginning with Reagan's.
 
Yep, as long as such taxation rates do not apply to your own income. Your generousity with the income of others is noted. Why not just make it 100% and whip out your calculator to see how much of a windfall that would create?

Fortunately, most Americans agree with me that the rich should be taxed more heavily. :2razz:
 
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