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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    what poor understanding you have of economics, civics, and the official gov't sites
    Sorry, you have yet to establish this.

    World economists don't put food on the table of anyone but their own families, don't put a roof over the heads of anyone but their own families so keep spouting the opinions of economists you want to believe and ignore anything that refutes them including the official data
    Economists are trained in data analysis. Sorry, they have far more credibility than any argument you've put forth, including the pathetic trash above.

    You can train a monkey to do just about anything including probably data analysis. Too bad logic, common sense and human nature aren't part of your training
    You can't train a rabid partisan hack to be honest. I've tried. Even when your failed predictions come to light, you just shift the goalpost and keep on failing. It's like watching a building burn.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Sorry, you have yet to establish this.



    Economists are trained in data analysis. Sorry, they have far more credibility than any argument you've put forth, including the pathetic trash above.



    You can't train a rabid partisan hack to be honest. I've tried. Even when your failed predictions come to light, you just shift the goalpost and keep on failing. It's like watching a building burn.
    Your credibility is in your mind not in the minds of the American people who are benefiting from the Trump economy, over 5 million jobs created in 2 years most of them full time not part time jobs for economic reasons, rising wages, record S&P stock dividends, record charitable contributions, and record state and local tax revenue.. Sorry that you won't be able to deduct all your high state and local taxes from your federal returns thanks to Trump so now you will learn the true cost of what you support.

    My partisanship? Bet I have voted for more Democrats in my life than you Republicans. that partisanship in me want away when I learned what you have failed to learn, liberalism is about spending in the name of compassion creating dependence thus solving no social problems which are state and local responsibilities anyway.

    There is nothing intelligent about sending more money to bureaucrats in D.C. that have created the 22 trillion dollar debt. State and Local economies need it more and that comes from consumer spending

    Oh, by the way I am partisan, partisan FOR the private sector, state and local responsibilities as well as people being held accountable for poor choices they make. I am partisan for individual wealth creation and the kind of gov't our Founders created, a small central gov;t with power at the state and local levels

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your credibility is in your mind not in the minds of the American people who are benefiting from the Trump economy, over 5 million jobs created in 2 years most of them full time not part time jobs for economic reasons, rising wages, record S&P stock dividends, record charitable contributions, and record state and local tax revenue.. Sorry that you won't be able to deduct all your high state and local taxes from your federal returns thanks to Trump so now you will learn the true cost of what you support.

    My partisanship? Bet I have voted for more Democrats in my life than you Republicans. that partisanship in me want away when I learned what you have failed to learn, liberalism is about spending in the name of compassion creating dependence thus solving no social problems which are state and local responsibilities anyway.

    There is nothing intelligent about sending more money to bureaucrats in D.C. that have created the 22 trillion dollar debt. State and Local economies need it more and that comes from consumer spending

    Oh, by the way I am partisan, partisan FOR the private sector, state and local responsibilities as well as people being held accountable for poor choices they make. I am partisan for individual wealth creation and the kind of gov't our Founders created, a small central gov;t with power at the state and local levels
    Nobody gives a **** about your opinions. I have exposed your ignorance, and will continue to do so. You may have the last word in this exchange, but if i catch any lies (and you are a known liar) i will call you on them and explain the error.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    US News: National debt tops $22 trillion for first time, after Trump tax cut

    Treasury Department:
    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    $16,157,240,020,401 in Treasuries
    $5,855,600,871,283 in Intragovernmental

    Needless to say, the big drivers these days are the Trump tax cuts, and last year's spending bills.

    The most likely short-term impact will be an increase in interest rates. In the medium term, it will probably make it harder to borrow in a recession.

    Someone better hope that MMT is accurate....
    Can any of your liberals/progressives explain to us how federal tax revenue grew in 2018 with those tax cuts and how state and local revenue set records after those tax cuts were implemented? Do you people have any understanding as to the components of GDP and what the largest component is?

    All I see from people like you is promotion of class envy, jealousy, and spreading liberal misery equally to everyone else. Suggest you all get out a little more and see what is going on in the country and rather than focus on 24/7 Trump bashing realize that the top issues facing the American people are economic and security not some so called collusion by Russia in the 2016 elections. If that is the number one issue facing you then all your problems are solved because that isn't an issue for me or most Americans as we celebrate the success of the Trump economy

    Maybe it is time to focus on something more important like cutting the size of the federal gov't and doing what Trump did with the executive branch spending, CUT IT!! this thread has gotten a lot of posts none of which describe the major causes of the deficit which is interest and entitlement spending increases, not discretionary spending.

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Nobody gives a **** about your opinions. I have exposed your ignorance, and will continue to do so. You may have the last word in this exchange, but if i catch any lies (and you are a known liar) i will call you on them and explain the error.
    Don't people ever get repulsed as i do when reading someone call their debating opponent a liar. Pick almost any issue we discuss here and there are two (at least) honest points of view. The world is a lot more gray than you would have us believe.

    I have given up hope that the people who monitor this site would have cleaned up this aspect. They must feel it is good for business to allow folks to be "uncivil".

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Don't people ever get repulsed as i do when reading someone call their debating opponent a liar. Pick almost any issue we discuss here and there are two (at least) honest points of view. The world is a lot more gray than you would have us believe.

    I have given up hope that the people who monitor this site would have cleaned up this aspect. They must feel it is good for business to allow folks to be "uncivil".
    Thank your president.

    Nothing gray about it, he is a liar and has taught his flock to do the same.
    The more I get to know people the more I realize why Noah only let animals on the boat.

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Don't people ever get repulsed as i do when reading someone call their debating opponent a liar.
    What do you call someone who continously lies?

    Pick almost any issue we discuss here and there are two (at least) honest points of view. The world is a lot more gray than you would have us believe.
    Conman is the biggest hack on this site, and will say anything to push his position. There are no get areas with him.

    Clearly you haven't read his posts in this thread, where he tells a lie, gets called on it for the tenth time in two months, and then back peddles with comments about his opinions of other people's education levels, intelligence, etc....

    So I ask again... What do you call someone who repeatedly tells lies?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Another topic you know nothing about fiscal year of the U.S. runs from October-September so apparently you don't know the difference between fiscal year and calendar year. It they gave you radicals a litmus test to vote you would never have a liberal in office because you couldn't vote
    I think I have said that the Fiscal runs from Oct 1 to the last day in Sept. many many times
    way before you said anything like that
    It has been you who has said the President takes over the debt on the day he takes office and now you are changing what you said?
    have a nice day

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The worst recovery in history?

    Sorry, but that happened starting back in '29.

    We could have had a repeat of that era, absent the governmental safeguards that were put into place afterward.
    and maybe if the Republicans would have put the welfare of the country first instead of trying to make Obama a one term President the recovery would have been more robust and we could have had a economy years before now
    Have a nice day

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    Re: Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Love the word smith that you leftists do
    Thanks for that, but I actually don't employ a team of leftists to do my posts. I come up with all of the brilliant repartee all by myself.


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