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So, now we know - it was Paul Ryan

Chomsky said:
Ah, O.K. Thanks for the clarification.

I still get nervous with lame ducks, though. If they are virtuous, the are removed from the political shackles that may bind them from fully voting their conscience. But if they're nefarious, they can do all kinds of untoward things.
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And then again not hanging around Washington for several years could also eliminate a good amount of corruption.
 
vesper said:
And then again not hanging around Washington for several years could also eliminate a good amount of corruption.
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I would love nothing more than a ban on lobbying for ex-government employees. 5 years, 10 years, lifetime, anything.
 
Superfly said:
Would certainly explain why he won't allow anyone to change his sheets.
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OMG...

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AlbqOwl said:
They, and the Democrats all know it is the right thing to do both as a national security measure to make it easier to maintain national security and as a humanitarian issue.
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ROTFLMAO


How do you even write stuff like this with a straight face?
 
Bullseye said:
Got anything to add other than your habitual "I hate Trump" babble? Rhetorical question we all KNOW The answer.
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See #11. Trump is incompetent and your apologetics don't change anything. Please retreat to your echo chamber where the deep state seemingly foils Trump at every turn.

Whatever gets ya through the night, as John Lennon said.
 
Mycroft said:
I always thought you had a modicum of intelligence, even if I've almost always disagreed with you. Imagine my disappointment to find out I was wrong...about your intelligence.

Trump has never "had the full Congress for the last two years".
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His party did. Trump's failure to lead was the issue, though he didn't make much of a fuss about the "wall", did he?
 
<alt>doxygen said:
See #11. Trump is incompetent and your apologetics don't change anything. Please retreat to your echo chamber where the deep state seemingly foils Trump at every turn.

Whatever gets ya through the night, as John Lennon said.
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Ironic you'd mention "echo chamber" while disgorging the same effluvia you've been spewing since you joined.
 
Trump never fails, he is only failed by others.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
His party did. Trump's failure to lead was the issue, though he didn't make much of a fuss about the "wall", did he?
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No. Not even his party "had the full Congress for the last two years".
 
Bullseye said:
Ironic you'd mention "echo chamber" while disgorging the same effluvia you've been spewing since you joined.
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You're the one that quoted and op-ed in townhall that quoted the daily caller quoting trump making excuses for trump.:lamo:roll:
 
Mycroft said:
No. Not even his party "had the full Congress for the last two years".
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They had what most of us call control. The house and and the senate. Not enough to stop any filibuster unless McConnell decided to change the rules again, but it's been awhile since any party had > 60 in the senate.

What would you call that?
 
<alt>doxygen said:
They had what most of us call control. The house and and the senate. Not enough to stop any filibuster unless McConnell decided to change the rules again, but it's been awhile since any party had > 60 in the senate.

What would you call that?
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They had a majority. They did not have the full Congress.

Look, if they had the full Congress, Obamacare would be toast...regardless what McCain did. If they had the full Congress, Trump would have money for his wall.

That stuff didn't happen because neither Trump nor the GOP "had the full Congress for the last two years".
 
Chomsky said:
I would love nothing more than a ban on lobbying for ex-government employees. 5 years, 10 years, lifetime, anything.
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I think that is a good idea even if it were just 5 years. I personally would like to see the Chamber of Commerce abolished. They in my opinion through their lobbying have corrupted more politicians than anything else. They offer huge sums of money to politicians in both parties for their votes on certain legislation that often sells out their own constituents.
 
noonereal said:
ROTFLMAO


How do you even write stuff like this with a straight face?
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I can write it because it is true. I can defend it with reason, logic, honest statistics, and testimony of those who are actually at the border trying to keep order, enforce our laws, and protect America and Americans.

Those who oppose the fence/wall write things like you just wrote. And if you had to defend your opposition to a physical barrier, you absolutely could not do it with logic, reason, or any kind of intellectually honest data or testimony.
 
Superfly said:
Regardless of who made the call, Trump had the full Congress for the last two years. He was the ****ing Commander in Chief. He could have made the call. Ryan and the rest of his ass-sniffers would have done whatever he told them to do.
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Ohhhhh, but then we could not have Trump apologists explaining away his deficiencies (lies) by blaming people no longer in power. Bad Man Ryan stopped Good Man Trump. LOL

Got to get ready for 2020! It should be very entertaining, if not quite so very sad. SAD.
 
Mycroft said:
I always thought you had a modicum of intelligence, even if I've almost always disagreed with you. Imagine my disappointment to find out I was wrong...about your intelligence.

Trump has never "had the full Congress for the last two years".
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Care to explain this? Because Trump did indeed have the House and the Senate for his first two years.
 
Bullseye said:
Ironic you'd mention "echo chamber" while disgorging the same effluvia you've been spewing since you joined.
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Technical question....you arrived in May 2018, he arrived in Dec. 2016. On what basis do you qualify your observation? Are you recycled?
 
Mycroft said:
They had a majority. They did not have the full Congress.

Look, if they had the full Congress, Obamacare would be toast...regardless what McCain did. If they had the full Congress, Trump would have money for his wall.

That stuff didn't happen because neither Trump nor the GOP "had the full Congress for the last two years".
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Perhaps only the right wing nuts are against Obamacare and for the wall? Could be.
 
vesper said:
I think that is a good idea even if it were just 5 years. I personally would like to see the Chamber of Commerce abolished. They in my opinion through their lobbying have corrupted more politicians than anything else. They offer huge sums of money to politicians in both parties for their votes on certain legislation that often sells out their own constituents.
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What about Pharmaceutical Companies? NRA? They deserve a mention.
 
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