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Trump bear market

Are you claiming that when stocks go negative for the year it does not mean the greater economy is in danger of faltering? The Trump economy is built on smoke and mirrors and half the increased growth is driven by increased Govt. spending. Is that the kind of growth that Conservatives want?



https://www.wsj.com/articles/government-and-military-spending-fuel-u-s-growth-1540459800

Stock market means absolutely nothing with regards to the overall economy, it goes up and goes down, are you telling me you really care? The articles you post are worthless, go to bea.gov and check out the components of GDP and see how much of that is govt. spending and the benefits generated by the private sector. I really feel sorry for people like you who just don't get it and probably never will
 
The graph speaks for itself. There were periods during Obama's term that had high economic growth.

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Unemployment has been falling for years too.

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Yes it has but the numbers are skewed because like most liberals you pay attention only to the bottom line but only when you think it benefits you. Do you realize that part time for economic reason employment is included in the employment numbers and skew the unemployment numbers as well? Of course not because to you total employment is all that matters not part time jobs where people want full time positions but couldn't find that. that is why you have zero credibility with your charts and posts.
 
The graph speaks for itself. There were periods during Obama's term that had high economic growth.

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Unemployment has been falling for years too.

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I posted the Treasury charts but love you how put in quarter months but never yearly. Here is what matters, ANNUAL

Table 1.1.1. Percent Change From Preceding Period in Real Gross Domestic Product
[Percent]
Bureau of Economic Analysis
Last Revised on: July 27, 2018 - Next Release Date August 29, 2018

Line 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
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1 Gross domestic product -0.1 -2.5 2.6 1.6 2.2 1.8 2.5 2.9 1.6

Only President in modern history not to have 3% annual growth and that coming off what you called the worst recession since the Great Depression. That shows just how poorly informed you are and how biased and partisan
 
Stock market means absolutely nothing with regards to the overall economy, it goes up and goes down, are you telling me you really care? The articles you post are worthless, go to bea.gov and check out the components of GDP and see how much of that is govt. spending and the benefits generated by the private sector. I really feel sorry for people like you who just don't get it and probably never will

So you know more than the Wall Street Journal now. Get ready to eat crow for the next few years. You are supporting a Govt. headed by a crime family that has 17 investigations going and Mueller has not even given his report. You will never live this down and neither will your party.
 
I posted the Treasury charts but love you how put in quarter months but never yearly. Here is what matters, ANNUAL



Only President in modern history not to have 3% annual growth and that coming off what you called the worst recession since the Great Depression. That shows just how poorly informed you are and how biased and partisan


Trump is forecast to have 2.8% growth in 2018 with a deficit nearing $800 billion. That is the result you are crowing about?
So you approve of using Govt. deficit spending to increase growth? Half of Trumps increased growth is from increased Govt. spending.

Since fiscal 2015, when the deficit hit a post-recession low of 2.6 percent of GDP, revenue is up 3.8 percent and spending up 14 percent. 1 But while that makes it look as if spending is the main driver of the recent growth in the deficit, it’s really both.

That’s because revenue growth of 3.8 percent over three years is quite weak, given the circumstances. One factor is the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which took effect Jan. 1 of this year. Federal receipts are still up so far this fiscal year despite the tax cuts, but only by $33 billion, or 1.3 percent. Tax revenue virtually always goes up when the economy is growing, and all indications are that receipts would be rising faster if it weren’t for the new tax law. Receipts from corporate income taxes — the main focus of the tax act — are actually down $62 billion, or 28 percent, over the same period in the previous fiscal year, while this fiscal year’s increase in overall tax revenue substantially trails that of recent years during which the economy was growing at a similar speed. (For reference, real GDP grew 3.2 percent in fiscal 2014, 2.4 percent in fiscal 2015, 1.5 percent in fiscal 2016 and 2.3 percent in fiscal 2017, and Bloomberg Economics forecasts that it will grow 2.8 percent in fiscal 2018. 2 )

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-07-16/rising-federal-deficit-fuels-u-s-economic-growth
 
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So you know more than the Wall Street Journal now. Get ready to eat crow for the next few years. You are supporting a Govt. headed by a crime family that has 17 investigations going and Mueller has not even given his report. You will never live this down and neither will your party.

Apparently negative opinions and projections always resonate with the miserable unhappy liberals. i will continue to celebrate success and the economic numbers being generated while you wallow in misery and hope for an economic collapse. Don't have a lot of respect for people with your kind of attitude
 
So you approve of using Govt. deficit spending to increase growth? Half of Trumps increased growth is from increased Govt. spending.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-07-16/rising-federal-deficit-fuels-u-s-economic-growth

As stated and ignored, consumer spending makes up 2/3rds of the US. economy so continue to ignore that component and the record revenue being generated by that component in other revenues to the federal, state and local governments. You are truly clueless when it comes to posting official data or even researching it. Spending all your time trying to find negative articles to feed your gloom and doom is a waste of time. Where were you during the 8 years of Obama. Please post for me the economic results from Obama that beat even evil GW Bush? Your partisanship won't allow you to admit how wrong you are but bls.gov, bea.gov, and Treasury do it for you
 
Apparently negative opinions and projections always resonate with the miserable unhappy liberals. i will continue to celebrate success and the economic numbers being generated while you wallow in misery and hope for an economic collapse. Don't have a lot of respect for people with your kind of attitude

You should not even mention the word "respect" when you support a criminal enterprise that is driving us into a ditch again. Trump only expertise is bankruptcy.
 
As stated and ignored, consumer spending makes up 2/3rds of the US. economy so continue to ignore that component and the record revenue being generated by that component in other revenues to the federal, state and local governments. You are truly clueless when it comes to posting official data or even researching it. Spending all your time trying to find negative articles to feed your gloom and doom is a waste of time. Where were you during the 8 years of Obama. Please post for me the economic results from Obama that beat even evil GW Bush? Your partisanship won't allow you to admit how wrong you are but bls.gov, bea.gov, and Treasury do it for you

Bush's economic policies produced the highest deficits and the worst recession in modern history and Trump is on track to beat his record.
 
You should not even mention the word "respect" when you support a criminal enterprise that is driving us into a ditch again. Trump only expertise is bankruptcy.

Yep, I am sure those 4.7 million new job holders and all those part time employees Obama created now working full time agree with you. Really is too bad how personality and left wing rhetoric has blinded you to reality
 
Bush's economic policies produced the highest deficits and the worst recession in modern history and Trump is on track to beat his record.

Your posts are embarrassing, Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 years including 1 trillion from 9/11 and Obama 9.3 trillion in 8 years. Guess 9.3 trillion is less than 4.9 trillion in that liberal world in which you live. Rather sad to see someone like you so poorly informed and so partisan and full of hatred. Such an inability to celebrate success of millions benefiting from the Trump economy all because of hate
 
So only "rich people" have 401K's?

401K's aren't short term investments and are still up over 20% in less than two years. Not sure where you got your investment education but probably the same place you got your civics and economics education, some leftwing socialist rag
 
Your posts are embarrassing, Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 years including 1 trillion from 9/11 and Obama 9.3 trillion in 8 years. Guess 9.3 trillion is less than 4.9 trillion in that liberal world in which you live. Rather sad to see someone like you so poorly informed and so partisan and full of hatred. Such an inability to celebrate success of millions benefiting from the Trump economy all because of hate

Those deficits were passed to Obama by Bush who took a balanced budget and turned it into trillion $ deficits. That is what Conservatives do.
 
Those deficits were passed to Obama by Bush who took a balanced budget and turned it into trillion $ deficits. That is what Conservatives do.

You keep embarrassing yourself, amazing how poorly informed you are. Deficits are not passed on to a President, budgets are, and there was no Bush budget passed on to the Obama as the Democratic Congress refused to approve the Bush budget. Clinton had no surplus as money was borrowed from SS and medicare making the budget look better but he still added 1.4 trillion to the debt. Not sure what it is going to take to get through to you but your grasp of civics, economics, and history is extremely poor

Here is the Treasury data, please educate yourself

Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)
 
Your posts are embarrassing, Bush 4.9 trillion in 8 years including 1 trillion from 9/11 and Obama 9.3 trillion in 8 years. Guess 9.3 trillion is less than 4.9 trillion in that liberal world in which you live. Rather sad to see someone like you so poorly informed and so partisan and full of hatred. Such an inability to celebrate success of millions benefiting from the Trump economy all because of hate

American CEOs are worried about 4 things. No. 1 is Trump.

Almost 90% of CEOs surveyed said the president's negotiating style had cost the US the trust of its allies, while three in four CEOs said they often had to apologize to their foreign business partners for the president's behavior. Three-quarters of CEOs also said they felt the president wasn't leading effectively on national security.

MAGA!
 

Post the survey, the questions asked, and who responded? Another negative post that defies the results being generated and coming from someone like you who doesn't understand the private sector and is truly a closet socialist because of a very poor understanding and lack of incentive to compete in the private sector. America is great again unless your idea of great is the Obama economy and massive big govt. spending.
 
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Yep, I am sure those 4.7 million new job holders and all those part time employees Obama created now working full time agree with you. Really is too bad how personality and left wing rhetoric has blinded you to reality

Your reality is obviously different to ours. The rightwing lies have got in your eyes.
The stock market is negative for the year; worst December since the Great Depression, jobs and GDP underperforming Obama. Thanks Trump!
 
Your reality is obviously different to ours. The rightwing lies have got in your eyes.
The stock market is negative for the year; worst December since the Great Depression, jobs and GDP underperforming Obama. Thanks Trump!

I am so happy that I never grew up a liberal as you people are the most miserable unhappy people I have ever seen. The stock market is up over 20% since Trump took office but you have to focus on the negative. I feel sorry for people like you and hope someday you find the happiness that you are missing today. For you to succeed America has to fail, which is truly sad
 
401K's aren't short term investments and are still up over 20% in less than two years. Not sure where you got your investment education but probably the same place you got your civics and economics education, some leftwing socialist rag

All three indexes are down for the year. Those are trump results since this is the 1st year his tax cuts and economic policies went into effect.
 
took bush 5 years to blow up the economy

Trump sure is a record setter
 
All three indexes are down for the year. Those are trump results since this is the 1st year his tax cuts and economic policies went into effect.
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Right, higher taxes always lead to strong consumer spending and create millions of jobs. What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? are you telling me we didn't have 4.7 million jobs created in less than 2 years under Trump, historic low Africian American and Hispanic unemployment rates, pre recession level U-6, record tax revenue to the federal, state and local governments, and over 3% GDP growth for the first time since 2005? Looks like a typical liberal who buys what they are told and is totally incapable of admitting when wrong. Why is it all of a sudden now the stock market that indicates the direction of the economy, a stock market that is still up over 20% from when Trump took office?
 
OMG, all those rich people losing money, why aren't you celebrating.

Only the rich own stocks now? I own stocks and I'm not wealthy.

You'll say anything, even asinine statements, to protect the GOP.
 
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