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Trump bear market

99percenter said:
Now that trumps policies are fully implemented, we are entering a bear market, Housing market is stumbling. Are we in a situation similar to 2008 where it will all go to ****?
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The situation isn't anything (AT ALL) similar to 2008. :stop:
 
Joecool44 said:
Did the FED raise interest rates during the Obama administration? Because that's a huge reason why the market has been volatile lately.

If Trump settles the trade issue with China, the market might break new records next year.
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LOL. Even trump says the rate hikes are a bad thing and is mad at his boy jerome. Should have kept janet yellen if he wanted slower rate hikes. He shot himself in the foot. Thats on him.
 
Conservative said:
25.3K is a bear market? Interesting how your standards are so low with Obama who never generated the results Trump has generated but now are extremely high in the reality that the market is up 30% since Trump took office. Your definition of bear is skewed by a perverted ideology
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You are including 2017 which belongs to obama. The 1st year trumps failed economic policies took effect he brough the market down from 26000 to 24000. It will get a lot worse before it gets better. Be prepared for it.
 
99percenter said:
Now that trumps policies are fully implemented, we are entering a bear market, Housing market is stumbling. Are we in a situation similar to 2008 where it will all go to ****?
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That bear closed to day only 5% of 52 week high. Grooooowwwwwllll.
 
Moderate Right said:
Funny how a 99percenter would give a crap about the stock market. Part of the trouble with the stock market is because we have a booming economy with rising interest rates.
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Do you even know what a 99percenter is? The upper middle class fall in the 99%. Their 401ks have taken a huge hit in the trump bear market.
 
SDET said:
It's almost like you want the economy to fail.
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Nobody wants our economy to fail, that's just preposterous. He just happens to see the writing on the wall.
 
HumblePi said:
Nobody wants our economy to fail, that's just preposterous. He just happens to see the writing on the wall.
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Exactly. did people really think the trump would allow the 10 year obama bull market to continue? He wanted to undo anything obama even if it hurts him in the long run. Evidenced by his appointment of powell.
 
gulfman said:
With the Democrats taking over the house the worst is yet to come
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A check on the powers of a would-be autocrat is precisely why we have 3 branches of government. Congress is the branch that's supposed to be the checks and balances of a president to prevent this country from becoming an autocracy not a democracy.
 
Conservative said:
Interesting how all that Green in the market the last few days now indicates a bear market, up 180 points today, Trump needs to be removed from office as we leftists cannot stand seeing this kind of financial performance along with the jobs being created

oops market up over 190 points today, 25.5k. That damn Trump!!
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99percenter said:
You are including 2017 which belongs to obama. The 1st year trumps failed economic policies took effect he brough the market down from 26000 to 24000. It will get a lot worse before it gets better. Be prepared for it.
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gulfman said:
With the Democrats taking over the house the worst is yet to come
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Ya, just what about that?

What do you want the Democrats to do with the with the House win I handed them?

I haven't made any demands of them yet, I guess they're doing their best to repay the Republicans for the way they treated Obama, my best advice is to not do anything that could blame them for how this tax plan is inevitably going to turn out.

You Mr. Conservative, how do you get off just slandering me, you made no substantive rebuttal, but to call me names. Why don't you admit the facts? Nobody's perfect. You want your party to win so let's say you want to stay with Trump and not run off in the other direction with open boarders and nobody taking on China economically. How can we do that? Well Trump and the Senate have to repeal their tax cut, then they can stay in power. Then we can have an interesting conversation, but to just come on here and try to ridicule your way out of loosing, that isn't very interesting, and you're right, not worth it for me, but it does get my website up there.
 
99percenter said:
You are including 2017 which belongs to obama. The 1st year trumps failed economic policies took effect he brough the market down from 26000 to 24000. It will get a lot worse before it gets better. Be prepared for it.
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How on earth does Obama have 2017? Did he sneak back into the WH and reverse his negative Growth EO's? What economic policy did he have in effect in 2017 that he deserves credit for? Your opinion continues to ignore reality
 
99percenter said:
Exactly. did people really think the trump would allow the 10 year obama bull market to continue? He wanted to undo anything obama even if it hurts him in the long run. Evidenced by his appointment of powell.
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Stunning re-write of history!! What is it about liberalism that creates this loyalty and ignorance of economic data and civics?
 
Exquisitor said:
Ya, just what about that?

What do you want the Democrats to do with the with the House win I handed them?

I haven't made any demands of them yet, I guess they're doing their best to repay the Republicans for the way they treated Obama, my best advice is to not do anything that could blame them for how this tax plan is inevitably going to turn out.

You Mr. Conservative, how do you get off just slandering me, you made no substantive rebuttal, but to call me names. Why don't you admit the facts? Nobody's perfect. You want your party to win so let's say you want to stay with Trump and not run off in the other direction with open boarders and nobody taking on China economically. How can we do that? Well Trump and the Senate have to repeal their tax cut, then they can stay in power. Then we can have an interesting conversation, but to just come on here and try to ridicule your way out of loosing, that isn't very interesting, and you're right, not worth it for me, but it does get my website up there.
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Take a civics class and see what the Democrats can do with the Republicans controlling the Senate? Slander? you don't know what the word means? I don't have a party, I am a conservative and grew up a JFK Conservative, No conservatives reside in today's Democratic Party. Keep ignoring the data and calling Trump a failure when the results make you look foolish.

There is no bear market and any attempt to prop up the Obama Administration and tear Down Trump is destroyed by actual data
 
99percenter said:
You are including 2017 which belongs to obama. The 1st year trumps failed economic policies took effect he brough the market down from 26000 to 24000. It will get a lot worse before it gets better. Be prepared for it.
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Paying any attention to the DOW lately? Of course not as gloom and doom is all you have. Going to get a lot worse before it gets better? Do you ever apologize for making wrong predictions?

Another fact you want to ignore, October 2007 the market hit 14.7 and on election day it was 18.2 or a 3.5k increase so giving Obama credit for the Trump economy doesn't do a lot for your credibility. Trump 19k on inauguration day to over 25k today pluse 6k in less than 2 years.
 
Conservative said:
Paying any attention to the DOW lately? Of course not as gloom and doom is all you have. Going to get a lot worse before it gets better? Do you ever apologize for making wrong predictions?

Another fact you want to ignore, October 2007 the market hit 14.7 and on election day it was 18.2 or a 3.5k increase so giving Obama credit for the Trump economy doesn't do a lot for your credibility. Trump 19k on inauguration day to over 25k today pluse 6k in less than 2 years.
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You are including obamas number. trump only gets credit for 2018 which is a decrease from 26000 to 24000
 
99percenter said:
You are including obamas number. trump only gets credit for 2018 which is a decrease from 26000 to 24000
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Only in your dreams as the page turned January 21, 2017 whether you like it or not and apparently actual results don't resonate with you. the last 6 qtrs. of Obama were 1.5% GDP growth and since you ignore that you have zero credibility on this or almost all other issues including your lean
 
99percenter said:
You are including obamas number. trump only gets credit for 2018 which is a decrease from 26000 to 24000
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In your world context doesn't matter only bottom line. What you want to ignore is that when the recession began there were 146 million employed and when Obama left office it was 152 million. In order to get the gains you want to give him credit for you have to ignore that his economic policies were a failure and a job returning isn't a job created. Employment went down to 138 million by the end of 2009 even after the 842 billion stimulus was passed in January 2009 and signed in mid February 2009. Employment never got back to pre recession levels until 2014. 6 million jobs gained since January 2008 pales in comparison to the 4.5 million jobs created since Trump took office.

Another metric, GDP growth, Trump's GDP growth since taking office is 2.9% and he exceeded 3% annual growth for the first time since 2005 when that evil GW Bush and Republicans controlled the Congress.

You see, economic policies make a difference and the over regulation, high taxes, anti growth policies created the worst recovery in U.S. history yet that reality is ignored. Too many people want to ignore policies and point only to out of context numbers. Very selective memory and standards for a so called very conservative. Stop lying
 
Conservative said:
In your world context doesn't matter only bottom line. What you want to ignore is that when the recession began there were 146 million employed and when Obama left office it was 152 million. In order to get the gains you want to give him credit for you have to ignore that his economic policies were a failure and a job returning isn't a job created. Employment went down to 138 million by the end of 2009 even after the 842 billion stimulus was passed in January 2009 and signed in mid February 2009. Employment never got back to pre recession levels until 2014. 6 million jobs gained since January 2008 pales in comparison to the 4.5 million jobs created since Trump took office.

Another metric, GDP growth, Trump's GDP growth since taking office is 2.9% and he exceeded 3% annual growth for the first time since 2005 when that evil GW Bush and Republicans controlled the Congress.

You see, economic policies make a difference and the over regulation, high taxes, anti growth policies created the worst recovery in U.S. history yet that reality is ignored. Too many people want to ignore policies and point only to out of context numbers. Very selective memory and standards for a so called very conservative. Stop lying
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Dude, the only reason Obama's recovery wasn't better was because of Republican obstructionism.

Obama had a nice bull market growth and now all that money is going to go to a bunch of cheap undercuts and we will be left with nothing but debt.
 
Conservative said:
Take a civics class and see what the Democrats can do with the Republicans controlling the Senate? Slander? you don't know what the word means? I don't have a party, I am a conservative and grew up a JFK Conservative, No conservatives reside in today's Democratic Party. Keep ignoring the data and calling Trump a failure when the results make you look foolish.

There is no bear market and any attempt to prop up the Obama Administration and tear Down Trump is destroyed by actual data
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Good answer, but what I wanted from you was intelligent discussion, but you seem all wrapped up in debate tactics, do you feel you've won when you answer with jibberish like this?

Slander? Ya it looks bad up these but so does a lot of other ****. I was going to say blaspheme, what's the right word? Rail? Defame? Ridicule like I said later. Hey, I should open the box from Amazon with the two thesauruses and two rhyming thesauruses, I put the thirty dollar one on my shopping list till I get my patent paid back a little bit more. Wha, so much book for seven dollars. Smear. Attack. Abuse. Good thing I didn't use blasphemy. Now lets see what the other one says. Words for writers; abuse: contumelious, opprobrious, scurrilous, but not quite. neither truculent or virulent. Under ridicule, you decry, deride, scoff and are the opposite of applaud and esteem. Now do you know what you are?
 
Exquisitor said:
Dude, the only reason Obama's recovery wasn't better was because of Republican obstructionism.

Obama had a nice bull market growth and now all that money is going to go to a bunch of cheap undercuts and we will be left with nothing but debt.
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What exactly did Obama want that the Republicans obstructed? They had total control of the Congress from 2007-2011 and a filibuster proof Senate part of 2010. Stop buying what you are told and live up to your lean of being an independent. Independents do research and verify what they are being told and don't buy rhetoric
 
Exquisitor said:
Good answer, but what I wanted from you was intelligent discussion, but you seem all wrapped up in debate tactics, do you feel you've won when you answer with jibberish like this?

Slander? Ya it looks bad up these but so does a lot of other ****. I was going to say blaspheme, what's the right word? Rail? Defame? Ridicule like I said later. Hey, I should open the box from Amazon with the two thesauruses and two rhyming thesauruses, I put the thirty dollar one on my shopping list till I get my patent paid back a little bit more. Wha, so much book for seven dollars. Smear. Attack. Abuse. Good thing I didn't use blasphemy. Now lets see what the other one says. Words for writers; abuse: contumelious, opprobrious, scurrilous, but not quite. neither truculent or virulent. Under ridicule, you decry, deride, scoff and are the opposite of applaud and esteem. Now do you know what you are?
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In debate facts defeat opinions and I have offered verifiable facts that you want to ignore. Name for me any data I have posted that is wrong and state for me any data you have posted. You want debate? Stop giving opinions and offer verifiable facts with context
 
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