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[W:1422] Federal Deficit Soars

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I will prove without a doubt that this character doesn't have a clue what communism is or what socialism is , Ok buddy show your stuff. go to a encyclopedia look up the main tenets of communism/socialism and with those tenets show us why Me my party or anything in this country is communist or socialist. Bring your Encyclopedia source. By the way I'll continue to ask this no matter where you are anyplace in this forum. Until you tell everyone that your totally wrong. Go for it big guy. . I'll read you post after you show the world what a expert you are on what and who a communist and a socialist is.

Do you support a healthcare system like Britains in this country?
 
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Good luck in all your future endeavors.

Guessing you are a boomer.. You better hope I have luck.. since I am paying your bills.
 
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Do you support a healthcare system like Britains in this country?
I support any program to get everyone in this country medical support. And if that makes me a commie then the whole world is communist. You like most haters on the right have this made up list of things that make you a commie. My favorite being Social security , because it has the word social in it. You read my challenge your more then welcome to do it yourself , so I can prove that not one of you haters know what Communism or socialism is.
 
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Guessing you are a boomer.. You better hope I have luck.. since I am paying your bills.
Just another Nazi wannabe
 
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I support any program to get everyone in this country medical support. And if that makes me a commie then the whole world is communist. You like most haters on the right have this made up list of things that make you a commie. My favorite being Social security , because it has the word social in it. You read my challenge your more then welcome to do it yourself , so I can prove that not one of you haters know what Communism or socialism is.

Yeah.. you need to read my posts.. any of my posts.. before you start shooting your mouth off calling me a "hater on the right".

You are going to feel really foolish when you see the posts I have supporting social security and that its an important safety net that protects our economy.

Yep.. I read your challenge.. that's why I asked if you supported a healthcare system like Britains in this country.

Cuz if you do.. as many liberals/democrats do.. then that's an example of supporting socialism. Because in Britain.. the healthcare system is largely government owned/controlled. They control the means of production/distribution and exchange of services in healthcare in Britain.
 
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Yeah.. you need to read my posts.. any of my posts.. before you start shooting your mouth off calling me a "hater on the right".

You are going to feel really foolish when you see the posts I have supporting social security and that its an important safety net that protects our economy.

Yep.. I read your challenge.. that's why I asked if you supported a healthcare system like Britains in this country.

Cuz if you do.. as many liberals/democrats do.. then that's an example of supporting socialism. Because in Britain.. the healthcare system is largely government owned/controlled. They control the means of production/distribution and exchange of services in healthcare in Britain.
Your example is ridiculous it is saying no more then insurance is socialism and your trying to tell me that every industrial country in the world is not capitalism but socialist. and I know it for sure simply because I know what socialism consists of and Medical support is no Different from the social security you say you support. Except its for everyone. Your just a hypocrite just like all you haters.Your just a a Nazi wannabe as i said. You don't get to define what socialism is or Communism is , that's been done already. Everyone of the right wing clowns have their own definition of Socialism , communism and out Constitution, 95% of these haters define these things through straining them through their hate. As you just did now. I read a post up until the time it turns to hate or stupidity or lies. Then I quit , I don't need to go any further. You and your hate party and your pile of **** president are this countries biggest threat and my biggest enemy.
 
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You should be ashamed of yourself. But that would take integrity.. and well.....
You and your hate party are my countries biggest threat , I don't like my enemy's , Do you. If we are in a war do you love our enemy's in that war. Most people don't. I don't
 
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Anyone want to predict the job numbers being released tomorrow, Friday? As we approach the end of fiscal year 2018 the debt service due to rising interest rates will consume most of the deficit for the fiscal year and is now the fourth largest budget item behind Defense, SS, and Medicare with neither SS and Medicare belonging on the budget.

The economy remains strong but the best the left can do is hope for failure as they are incapable of celebrating successes or even acknowledging consequences for their policies never admitting when wrong.

24/7 media, social engineering, radical leftwing behavior are creating the negativity that will eventually destroy this country and what is truly sad is that you leftists may mean well but just don't get it or even consider the affects of what you are proposing.
 
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Your example is ridiculous it is saying no more then insurance is socialism.

Nope.. insurance is not socialism.

Socialism is when the collectively usually through government.. the government controls the production, distribution and exchange. Britain healthcare system is a good example of a socialized system. They have government employed health workers, government hospitals, and government single payer insurance. Some 90% of the healthcare market is public I believe.

Social security is simply a government insurance. The government does not decide what people can purchase with social security, it does not provide workers that provide goods that people can buy with social security and it does not provide stores where people can spend their social security.

Here is the irony.. You have just proven that YOU don't know what socialism is.

Now..

Your just a a Nazi wannabe as i said
.. that would be quite offensive to me.. since my family hails from Germany... my family had to relocate to the US to flee the Nazi's. Some of them did not make it. and ended up perishing in the death camps or were simply shot.
 
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Nope.. insurance is not socialism.

Socialism is when the collectively usually through government.. the government controls the production, distribution and exchange. Britain healthcare system is a good example of a socialized system. They have government employed health workers, government hospitals, and government single payer insurance. Some 90% of the healthcare market is public I believe.

Social security is simply a government insurance. The government does not decide what people can purchase with social security, it does not provide workers that provide goods that people can buy with social security and it does not provide stores where people can spend their social security.

Here is the irony.. You have just proven that YOU don't know what socialism is.

Now..


.. that would be quite offensive to me.. since my family hails from Germany... my family had to relocate to the US to flee the Nazi's. Some of them did not make it. and ended up perishing in the death camps or were simply shot.
Nonsense. The government owns , controls the production distribution and exchange. Bull**** to that Obama care goes through the private sector and if the set standards on it , I'm more then happy to have them do that. You see government represents people business represents it self , Not even close to being socialist. Just bull**** from the hate party. Try harder.
 
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Nonsense. The government owns , controls the production distribution and exchange..

Yep.. that's socialism. The British healthcare system is an example of socialism.

Bull**** to that Obama care goes through the private sector and if the set standards on it

Ummm.. who exactly are you arguing with. I did not discuss obamacare.. I stated the British healthcare system.. which you stated you supported the US going to..

As far as Obamacare.. no.. its not socialism. In fact.. it was a step back from socialism for the most part.. by using a free market solution to get more insurance companies and more competition in the free market.

Look man.. the only hater here is you. Seriously man.. do you even bother to read what I have posted.. or are you just so filled with hate and anger that you are completely unable to be even remotely objective?
 
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Look man.. the only hater here is you. Seriously man.. do you even bother to read what I have posted.. or are you just so filled with hate and anger that you are completely unable to be even remotely objective?

The left preaches tolerance but has none if you disagree with them.
 
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The left preaches tolerance but has none if you disagree with them.


I don't think he sees the irony of his own posts...
 
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This says it all:

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This says it all:

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So now you care about the deficit and debt? Really? Did you vote for Obama? Since you want to credit Obama for the economy do you now want to give him credit for the 500 billion in debt service in the 2018 deficit? Posted a link that you seem to want to ignore as well and don't blame you. going to be tough for liberals to create dependence if we do generate the 5% GDP growth this last qtr of 2018 and that would put Trump's first full fiscal year well over 3% something Obama never did

What is a liberal to do when they aren't needed any more?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gdp-growth-q3-third-quarter-strong-2018-8.
 
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So now you care about the deficit and debt? Really? Did you vote for Obama? Since you want to credit Obama for the economy do you now want to give him credit for the 500 billion in debt service in the 2018 deficit? ...{blah, blah, blah}

It's all covered in this column today:

Days of Fear, Years of Obstruction

[When]Lehman Brothers failed 10 years ago[, t]he U.S. economy was already in a recession... 6.5 mil. jobs would be lost over the next year. It was a terrifying time.
Still, we didn’t experience a full replay of the Great Depression, and some have argued that the system worked...
But this is only half right. We avoided utter disaster, but nonetheless experienced a huge, sustained employment slump... Why did the slump go on so long?

There are multiple answers, but the most important factor was politics — cynical, bad-faith obstructionism on the part of the Republican Party.
...
Unemployment rose to almost 10%, then came down with painful slowness; it didn’t get back to 5% until seven years after Lehman’s fall. Why didn’t rapid financial recovery lead to rapid economic recovery?
At a basic level, the answer is that the financial crisis was only one symptom of a bigger problem: the collapse of a gigantic housing bubble. The bursting bubble exerted a powerful downdraft on the economy, both because it led to a plunge in residential investment and because it was a huge hit to household wealth, which reduced consumer spending.What the crisis called for, then, were policies to boost spending... But the normal response, cutting interest rates, wasn’t available, because rates were already near zero. What we needed, instead, was fiscal stimulus: increased government outlays and tax cuts for lower- and middle-income families, who would be likely to spend them. And we did indeed get substantial stimulus. But it wasn’t big enough, and even more important, it faded out much too fast. By 2013, with unemployment still above 7%, government at all levels was providing barely more economic support than it had in 2007, when the housing boom was still running strong.

Why did the response to a depressed economy fall short?...
the most important reason the great slump went on so long was scorched-earth Republican opposition to anything and everything that might have helped offset the fallout from the housing bust.
When I say “scorched earth,” I’m not being hyperbolic. Let’s not forget that in the summer of 2011 Republicans in Congress threatened to provoke a new financial crisis by refusing to raise the debt limit. Their goal was to blackmail President Barack Obama into cutting spending at a time when unemployment was still 9% and U.S. real borrowing costs were close to zero.
Back then, the GOP claimed that their opposition was driven by fiscal responsibility. But this was complete hypocrisy, as the last two years prove.
The very same politicians who piously declared that America couldn’t afford to spend money supporting jobs in the face of a deep, prolonged slump just rammed through a huge, deficit-exploding tax cut for corporations and the wealthy even though the economy is currently near full employment...
So if you want to understand why the great slump that began in 2008 went on so long, blighting so many American lives, the answer is politics. Specifically, policy failed because cynical, bad-faith Republicans were willing to sacrifice millions of jobs rather than let anything good happen to the economy while a Democrat sat in the White House.
 
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It's all covered in this column today:

Days of Fear, Years of Obstruction


Back then, the GOP claimed that their opposition was driven by fiscal responsibility. But this was complete hypocrisy, as the last two years prove.

Oh great ,another 'objective " ( laff) opinion from a hyper-partisn liberal.

What does Robert Reich have to say about this? same thing?
 
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It's all covered in this column today:

Days of Fear, Years of Obstruction


Back then, the GOP claimed that their opposition was driven by fiscal responsibility. But this was complete hypocrisy, as the last two years prove.

Aw, yes, that loyalty to liberalism, are you afraid of losing your welfare check? What you don't seem to grasp is that 500 billion of the 2018 deficit is due to debt service NOT created by Trump and what you also fail to recognize is that all those CBO Predictions never predicted the current GDP growth or even considered the Trump budget which is proposed to be less than this years. Name for me any President that submitted a lower budget than the previous year's budget?

You certainly are persistent in posting nothing but negatives while never celebrating the good news. going to be a tough qtr when you see 4-5% GDP growth giving Trump over 3% for his first fiscal year on top of the millions of jobs created, strong full time positions created, and now people keeping more of their own money. Who are you going to get to be dependent on your ideology with so many people now doing better? Really hate to see that record dollar amount given to charity, don't you?
 
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Aw, yes, that loyalty to liberalism, are you afraid of losing your welfare check? What you don't seem to grasp is that 500 billion of the 2018 deficit is due to debt service NOT created by Trump and what you also fail to recognize is that all those CBO Predictions never predicted the current GDP growth or even considered the Trump budget which is proposed to be less than this years. Name for me any President that submitted a lower budget than the previous year's budget?

You certainly are persistent in posting nothing but negatives while never celebrating the good news. going to be a tough qtr when you see 4-5% GDP growth giving Trump over 3% for his first fiscal year on top of the millions of jobs created, strong full time positions created, and now people keeping more of their own money. Who are you going to get to be dependent on your ideology with so many people now doing better? Really hate to see that record dollar amount given to charity, don't you?

Debt service (interest) is the same in 2017 as it was in 2008.

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While you cheer the "good news" most people aren't seeing the economic growth. Watch out, GOP: The economy is roaring, but most Americans aren't feeling it
  • "The economy" may be roaring, but for most voters their economy is not.
  • The positive news Wall Street savors — robust corporate profits, rising stock prices, surging output growth — deliver the greatest rewards to a relatively modest share of more affluent Americans.

"Fifty-one percent of the electorate lives paycheck-to-paycheck," explains David Winston, a strategist for GOP leaders battling to save their House majority. "Their issues are wages and the cost of living. Ultimately for those folks, the question is, are those paycheck-to-paycheck dynamics getting better?"
 
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Oh great ,another 'objective " ( laff) opinion from a hyper-partisn (sic) liberal.

What does Robert Reich have to say about this? same thing?
Translation: "I can't refute anything Dr. Krugman wrote, so I will respond by merely dismissing him as a 'hyper-partisan,' and retreat to my safe-space -- my predetermined viewpoint."
 
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Debt service (interest) is the same in 2017 as it was in 2008.

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While you cheer the "good news" most people aren't seeing the economic growth. Watch out, GOP: The economy is roaring, but most Americans aren't feeling it

Better tell that to Treasury as once again you prove you don't have a clue because we know that the bank account of the United States is never right. they should always get their data from you and sources you want to believe

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
 
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Translation: "I can't refute anything Dr. Krugman wrote, so I will respond by merely dismissing him as a 'hyper-partisan,' and retreat to my safe-space -- my predetermined viewpoint."

Actually your translation is I believe what I want to believe regardless of the data proving me wrong thus I have no problem making a fool of myself and losing credibility
 
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Translation: "I can't refute anything Dr. Krugman wrote, so I will respond by merely dismissing him as a 'hyper-partisan,' and retreat to my safe-space -- my predetermined viewpoint."


Krugman :

Why did the response to a depressed economy fall short?...
he most important reason the great slump went on so long was scorched-earth Republican opposition to anything and everything that might have helped offset the fallout from the housing bust.
When I say “scorched earth,” I’m not being hyperbolic. Let’s not forget that in the summer of 2011 Republicans in Congress threatened to provoke a new financial crisis by refusing to raise the debt limit. Their goal was to blackmail President Barack Obama into cutting spending at a time when unemployment was still 9% and U.S. real borrowing costs were close to zero.

Ok , I refute everything he said there.
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It's an opinion based on pure hyper-partisan supposition.

Satisfied?
 
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Debt service (interest) is the same in 2017 as it was in 2008.

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While you cheer the "good news" most people aren't seeing the economic growth. Watch out, GOP: The economy is roaring, but most Americans aren't feeling it

Not surprising at all that you were proven wrong but not mature enough to apologize for your error. There obviously is something about liberalism that makes it impossible to admit when wrong and to accept the official data or even post any official data but rather always post opinions from sources you want to believe regardless of how it makes you look when wrong.
 
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