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[W:1422] Federal Deficit Soars

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Conservative said:
Not surprising at all that you were proven wrong but not mature enough to apologize for your error. There obviously is something about liberalism that makes it impossible to admit when wrong and to accept the official data or even post any official data but rather always post opinions from sources you want to believe regardless of how it makes you look when wrong.
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You declaring that I am wrong doesn't make it so. Besides, I have no idea what you think I am wrong about. The numbers in the graph speak for themselves.
 
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MTAtech said:
Translation: "I can't refute anything Dr. Krugman wrote, so I will respond by merely dismissing him as a 'hyper-partisan,' and retreat to my safe-space -- my predetermined viewpoint."
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Krugman is a very poor economist. He supported bad fiscal policies which led to the 2008 collapse and then joined the chorus of leftist partisans in misreporting the real causes behind the collapse.
 
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MTAtech said:
You declaring that I am wrong doesn't make it so. Besides, I have no idea what you think I am wrong about. The numbers in the graph speak for themselves.
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And the numbers from the bank of the United States speaks for themselves as well, why would your chart be more accurate than Treasury Data? What the hell is wrong with you?
 
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marke said:
Krugman is a very poor economist. He supported bad fiscal policies which led to the 2008 collapse and then joined the chorus of leftist partisans in misreporting the real causes behind the collapse.
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Krugman is all about spending money, doesn't make any difference where it is spent as long as it IS spent. Based upon the poor Obama performance Krugman claims we didn't spend enough showing again just how the left is all about spending even in the public sector which is where Obama spent most of the money.
 
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marke said:
Krugman is a very poor economist. He supported bad fiscal policies which led to the 2008 collapse and then joined the chorus of leftist partisans in misreporting the real causes behind the collapse.
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Poor economists, huh? Tell it to the Nobel Committee.
 
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MTAtech said:
Poor economists, huh? Tell it to the Nobel Committee.
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Suggest you and Krugman take a civics class and learn about the various departments in the govt. and then you wouldn't be discounting Treasury data like you constantly do buying sources you want to believe. Wonder if you treat your bank the same way as you are treating the U.S. bank?
 
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MTAtech said:
Poor economists, huh? Tell it to the Nobel Committee.
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I'm not talking to those bozos. They did not listen to me when I complained to them about Obama and Al Gore.
 
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Conservative said:
Krugman is all about spending money, doesn't make any difference where it is spent as long as it IS spent. Based upon the poor Obama performance Krugman claims we didn't spend enough showing again just how the left is all about spending even in the public sector which is where Obama spent most of the money.
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On Domestic spending, not Foreign spending. Only the right wing, Never gets it.
 
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Conservative said:
Aw, yes, that loyalty to liberalism, are you afraid of losing your welfare check? What you don't seem to grasp is that 500 billion of the 2018 deficit is due to debt service NOT created by Trump and what you also fail to recognize is that all those CBO Predictions never predicted the current GDP growth or even considered the Trump budget which is proposed to be less than this years. Name for me any President that submitted a lower budget than the previous year's budget?

You certainly are persistent in posting nothing but negatives while never celebrating the good news. going to be a tough qtr when you see 4-5% GDP growth giving Trump over 3% for his first fiscal year on top of the millions of jobs created, strong full time positions created, and now people keeping more of their own money. Who are you going to get to be dependent on your ideology with so many people now doing better? Really hate to see that record dollar amount given to charity, don't you?
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Obama in 2012 and 2013.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fed...F-8&hl=en&client=safari#imgrc=AdlTy-dEL7-b6M:
 
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Conservative said:
Must have missed those, were they passed?
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Yes, of course, that was after a couple of previous years of massive spending increases and still resulted in deficit spending.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Obama in 2012 and 2013.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fed...F-8&hl=en&client=safari#imgrc=AdlTy-dEL7-b6M:
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Yes, Obama submitted a budget reduction of 100 billion dollars in 2012 over 2011 but then increased them the next year and from that point on. Those budget proposals led to deficits of over a 1 trillion dollars in 2012, Obama's fourth trillion dollar deficit due to still not the job creation required for revenue growth but what really happened was the Republicans took control of the House and submitted a lower budget than Obama which led to the Gang of 6 and eventually sequestration. In addition there were supplemental expenditures during the year that weren't part of the budget but are always part of the deficit
 
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Media_Truth said:
A lot has happened since this thread was started.

https://www.voanews.com/a/us-federal-deficit-to-hit-1-trillion-by-end-of-fiscal-year-/4567255.html

The U.S. federal deficit will reach $1 trillion by the end of the fiscal year, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday.
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In the current period, the deficit has reached $895 billion.

Pathetic! Republicans control all 3 legislative branches. Pathetic!
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Beyond pathetic
 
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calamity said:
Beyond pathetic
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What is truly pathetic is the partisan bull**** coming out of the computers of you radicals who didn't give a damn about the deficits under Obama and totally ignore the debt service on the debt that Trump inherited including the interest on the 9.3 trillion dollar Obama debt. This is why the left has zero credibility as context matters except to radicals.
 
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Joecool44 said:
The left preaches tolerance but has none if you disagree with them.
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I in no way preach tolerance ,you and the rest of your hate group are this countries biggest threat and enemy and I always hate my countries enemy's Don't you?
 
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jaeger19 said:
Yep.. that's socialism. The British healthcare system is an example of socialism.



Ummm.. who exactly are you arguing with. I did not discuss obamacare.. I stated the British healthcare system.. which you stated you supported the US going to..

As far as Obamacare.. no.. its not socialism. In fact.. it was a step back from socialism for the most part.. by using a free market solution to get more insurance companies and more competition in the free market.

Look man.. the only hater here is you. Seriously man.. do you even bother to read what I have posted.. or are you just so filled with hate and anger that you are completely unable to be even remotely objective?
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Then you know that socialism doesn't live in this country.Any how the government owning one aspect of their industry's doesn't make the country socialist. Just makes them smart to choose what works best. Do you want to argue that health care cost in Britain is 1/2 the amount that it cost here.
 
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Conservative said:
So now you care about the deficit and debt? Really? Did you vote for Obama? Since you want to credit Obama for the economy do you now want to give him credit for the 500 billion in debt service in the 2018 deficit? Posted a link that you seem to want to ignore as well and don't blame you. going to be tough for liberals to create dependence if we do generate the 5% GDP growth this last qtr of 2018 and that would put Trump's first full fiscal year well over 3% something Obama never did

What is a liberal to do when they aren't needed any more?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gdp-growth-q3-third-quarter-strong-2018-8.
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You sound a little defensive when proof is put right in front of your face and you can't respond to it, so you hate someone or think they are stupid or takers you know all the hate stuff that your hate group depends on.
 
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jbander said:
You sound a little defensive when proof is put right in front of your face and you can't respond to it, so you hate someone or think they are stupid or takers you know all the hate stuff that your hate group depends on.
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You sound like you have a vested interest in everything that happens in the federal govt. and with Trump. Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions but please take a civics class to learn about the THREE EQUAL branches of the federal govt. and the role of each. It will make you look less foolish.

The proof is in the official data in context and when you have 500 billion in debt service for debt NOT created during the Trump Administration that defeats your argument but as usual you don't care
 
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Conservative said:
You sound like you have a vested interest in everything that happens in the federal govt. and with Trump. Grow up and take responsibility for your own actions but please take a civics class to learn about the THREE EQUAL branches of the federal govt. and the role of each. It will make you look less foolish.

The proof is in the official data in context and when you have 500 billion in debt service for debt NOT created during the Trump Administration that defeats your argument but as usual you don't care
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Oh ya now I understand completely I never thought of power of what you just wrote . that makes everything in our economy totally different then what I thought. And Yes I have a vested interest in my country and yes President Scum bag being this countries biggest threat and enemy I'm doing everything possible to take down the hate president and the hate party that elected this man of hate and who support this hate driven pig.
 
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Conservative said:
Yes, Obama submitted a budget reduction of 100 billion dollars in 2012 over 2011 but then increased them the next year and from that point on. Those budget proposals led to deficits of over a 1 trillion dollars in 2012, Obama's fourth trillion dollar deficit due to still not the job creation required for revenue growth but what really happened was the Republicans took control of the House and submitted a lower budget than Obama which led to the Gang of 6 and eventually sequestration. In addition there were supplemental expenditures during the year that weren't part of the budget but are always part of the deficit
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Gee I can't remember what was going on the day Obama took office I mean I remember it was a person from the right that was president for 8 years before Obama but I just can't remember what they both did for our economy. Maybe if you told me I'd remember , I bet a lot of people here would like to see how you grind your ax on this subject. Was Obama a Commie or something ?
 
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jbander said:
Oh ya now I understand completely I never thought of power of what you just wrote . that makes everything in our economy totally different then what I thought. And Yes I have a vested interest in my country and yes President Scum bag being this countries biggest threat and enemy I'm doing everything possible to take down the hate president and the hate party that elected this man of hate and who support this hate driven pig.
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You opinion noted, the results tell a different story but then again action results don't matter to you
 
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