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Conservatives irate over GOP’s spending hypocrisy

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Conservatives irate over GOP’s spending hypocrisy

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GOP Rep. Mark Meadows

April 10, 2018

House Republican leaders, stung by President Donald Trump’s rebuke of Congress’ recent trillion-dollar spending spree, are moving to give their rank and file cover by passing a balanced budget amendment this week. But many conservatives, including a good number of House Republicans, say the vote is insincere at best — and blatantly hypocritical at worst. “There is no one on Capitol Hill, and certainly no one on Main Street, that will take this vote seriously,” said Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), on the heels of a $1.3 trillion spending package that Republicans approved just last month. “Leadership is just trying to check a box here,” added Andrew Roth, vice president for government affairs at the Club for Growth. “I don’t see how voters can distinguish between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to spending.” One conservative commentator, Barbara Boland, equated the upcoming exercise to “gorging on a sumptuous feast while insisting that you want a svelte physique.” And other members of the House Freedom Caucus, all of whom voted against a $1.3 trillion spending package in late March, are calling it little more than a charade. “The time to get spending under control was four weeks ago,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), again referring to the late-March spending vote. “Coming back four weeks later and saying, ‘Oh, now we’re going to pound our chest like Tarzan and say we’re for a balanced budget amendment,’ it’s not going to fool anybody.”

Jordan and Meadows support the balanced budget amendment as a marker for fiscal austerity — it’s the timing of the vote, on the heels of the spending bonanza, that rankles them and other conservatives. The proposal requires supermajorities in both chambers to pass, as well as ratification by three-quarters of the states, an impossible hurdle. But with Republicans swimming in red ink — the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projected regular trillion-dollar annual deficits starting in 2020, despite a growing economy — the party feels pressure to do something. The CBO’s deficit forecast hasn’t been that bleak since the Great Recession. And this time, Republicans can’t blame Barack Obama and the Democrats. Democrats are blasting Republicans for what House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer called a “political stunt.” The Maryland Democrat on Tuesday said Republicans are “worried” about the midterm elections and “they’re flailing about.” “It sounds to me very much,” he said, “like they’re … saying one thing and doing another, speaking out of both sides of their mouth.”

It is indeed a charade which is why Paul Ryan and dozens of GOP congress-critters are fleeing the scene of the crime.
 
Since when has a Republican lowered the debt? This is just the standard GOP ploy to make it seem like it's still the party of fiscal responsibility. No side of the Republocrats are fiscally responsible any longer.
 
They got what they voted for; ****them. **** every single one of them. Maybe next time they will know better but prolly not. **** them
 
There has been nothing fiscally responsible in the GOP beyond words for many decades.
 
Conservatives irate over GOP’s spending hypocrisy

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GOP Rep. Mark Meadows



It is indeed a charade which is why Paul Ryan and dozens of GOP congress-critters are fleeing the scene of the crime.

There are a LOT of us conservatives who are irate over that spending bill, most especially Congress's failure to defund those things they promised to defund in their campaigns. And we are irate that they are funding those things while denying the President funding for the wall that he promised in his campaign, a wall that likely kept a lot of Republicans in their present jobs because the American people want control over who will be allowed entry into the country.

But the left's self-righteous proclamations of the GOP being big spenders is about as hypocritical as it gets. For sure the GOP these days are not fiscal conservatives by any stretch of the imagination, but they share that less-than-commendable characteristic with the Democrats in spades. No Democratic administration or Congress has been fiscally conservative either, at least for the last 50 years.

Can we at least be intellectually honest about that?
 
Conservatives aren't "irate", that's a faux outrage. If they were really irate, they would run fiscally conservative republicans against incumbent republicans but they don't.

Yes we did - remember the TEA Party?? That was a movement based on fiscal responsibility and cutting spending and they were primarying candidates left and right. When was the last time ANY Democrat got primaried? When was the last time there was any left wing political party that stepped out of line with the DNC and chose to fight it at the ground level?
 
Why would they be irate? Conservatives have historically shown that they LOVE big spending.
 
There are a LOT of us conservatives who are irate over that spending bill, most especially Congress's failure to defund those things they promised to defund in their campaigns. And we are irate that they are funding those things while denying the President funding for the wall that he promised in his campaign, a wall that likely kept a lot of Republicans in their present jobs because the American people want control over who will be allowed entry into the country.

But the left's self-righteous proclamations of the GOP being big spenders is about as hypocritical as it gets. For sure the GOP these days are not fiscal conservatives by any stretch of the imagination, but they share that less-than-commendable characteristic with the Democrats in spades. No Democratic administration or Congress has been fiscally conservative either, at least for the last 50 years.

Can we at least be intellectually honest about that?

Have someone explain 'hypocrisy' to you. That, and why would you expext 'the left' to be 'fiscally conservative'? Democrats don't pretend to be what they're not. But conservatives? In the case of fiscal responsibility?

Intellectual honesty. Yeah.

Priceless.
 
Yes we did - remember the TEA Party?? That was a movement based on fiscal responsibility and cutting spending and they were primarying candidates left and right. When was the last time ANY Democrat got primaried? When was the last time there was any left wing political party that stepped out of line with the DNC and chose to fight it at the ground level?

Yes, I do remember the tea party, where are they now? They are notably silent even though spending has increased. Fox News used to have them on weekly during Obama years. Now, NOTHING.

The fact you have to deflect to Dems SHOWS what I said was correct.
 
Have someone explain 'hypocrisy' to you. That, and why would you expext 'the left' to be 'fiscally conservative'? Democrats don't pretend to be what they're not. But conservatives? In the case of fiscal responsibility?

Intellectual honesty. Yeah.

Priceless.

Well setting aside the non sequitur aspect of your post, at least you seem to be admitting that the left is not fiscally responsible. I do admire that kind of intellectual honesty.
 
Well setting aside the non sequitur aspect of your post, at least you seem to be admitting that the left is not fiscally responsible. I do admire that kind of intellectual honesty.

It's fun to watch when you have to pretend that your intellectual dishonesty being pointed out equates to a non sequitor.
 
Yes we did - remember the TEA Party?? That was a movement based on fiscal responsibility and cutting spending and they were primarying candidates left and right. When was the last time ANY Democrat got primaried? When was the last time there was any left wing political party that stepped out of line with the DNC and chose to fight it at the ground level?

The same TEA Party that the Obama administration systematically destroyed by refusing to process hundred's of Tea Party groups applications for non profit status. Remember that Lois Lerner of the IRS took the Fifth on that in her congressional hearing and quickly resigned so that she wouldn't lose any of her pension should she be fired. The IRS has since apologized for targeting not only the Tea Party but most applications for all religious and conservative groups throughout most of the Obama Administration but their mission had been accomplished by then and the damage done as, without legal standing, they could not effectively do any fund raising.

They may resurrect under a more responsible Trump Administration but it is likely too late for them to have much effect on the 2018 or 2020 elections.
 
What is it going to take for people to see that the GOP is about racism and lower taxes for the rich and not about conservatism? What is it going to take? Do you need any more proof?
 
Since when has a Republican lowered the debt? This is just the standard GOP ploy to make it seem like it's still the party of fiscal responsibility. No side of the Republocrats are fiscally responsible any longer.

It's like that 'small government' meme they love the sound of. Government gets bigger and stronger every time conservatives are in charge.
They just love their bumper-sticker sentiments, though.
 
It's like that 'small government' meme they love the sound of. Government gets bigger and stronger every time conservatives are in charge.
They just love their bumper-sticker sentiments, though.

It gets bigger and stronger no matter which branch of the Republocrats are in charge. The Republocrat Oligarchy is a Big Government, Big Brother, Big War, Big Spending, Big Corporation party.
 
Yes, I do remember the tea party, where are they now? They are notably silent even though spending has increased. Fox News used to have them on weekly during Obama years. Now, NOTHING.

The fact you have to deflect to Dems SHOWS what I said was correct.

They got hammered by idiots trying to make them look like racists. Guess who those idiots were...

BTW - The TEA Party started during the Bush admin.
 
Since when has a Republican lowered the debt? This is just the standard GOP ploy to make it seem like it's still the party of fiscal responsibility. No side of the Republocrats are fiscally responsible any longer.
And none will ever be as long as they can use our money to promise stuff to voters. Promise stuff, get re-elected, rinse, repeat.
 
Conservatives aren't "irate", that's a faux outrage. If they were really irate, they would run fiscally conservative republicans against incumbent republicans but they don't.
This I agree with.
 
Yes we did - remember the TEA Party?? That was a movement based on fiscal responsibility and cutting spending and they were primarying candidates left and right. When was the last time ANY Democrat got primaried? When was the last time there was any left wing political party that stepped out of line with the DNC and chose to fight it at the ground level?
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Not just the GOP, and not just elected officials.
That's a false equivalence. Obamacare was created by Democrats and had a dedicated funding source. The same thing for Medicare and Social Security.

The difference is that Democrats propose spending and don't mind taxing to pay for the spending. Republicans spend more and cut-taxes, resulting in increased debts.
 
My view is that if you voted for the tax-cut you have no right to complain about deficits. You are the cause of the deficits.
 
Yes we did - remember the TEA Party?? That was a movement based on fiscal responsibility and cutting spending and they were primarying candidates left and right. When was the last time ANY Democrat got primaried? When was the last time there was any left wing political party that stepped out of line with the DNC and chose to fight it at the ground level?

The tea party? Who only cared about spending when the black liberal became president. Where were they when Bush was starting a bogus war that has racked up many billions and still going? Where are they now that Trump is president?

You just pointed out the ridiculous hypocrisy of many conservatives, all while doing yet another lame deflection to "but the democrats".
 
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