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The Swamp?

Mycroft said:
shrug...

I guess the Mainstream Media didn't fully understand that old saying...any press is good press.

In any case, this is irrelevant to the topic of "the swamp". Unless, of course, you are including the media in your notion of the swamp.
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From the Christian Science Monitor:
Today, experts on government ethics say, President Trump is presiding over one of the most ethically challenged administrations in modern history, especially this early on. Scott Pruitt, head of the Environmental Protection Agency, is only the latest example of a cabinet member operating under a storm cloud. Most recently, Mr. Pruitt has been accused of an improper housing set-up connected to an energy lobbyist, unconventional pay raises to favored political appointees, and reassignment or demotion of senior staff who questioned his spending. His job reportedly hangs in the balance, amid mixed signals from Trump and his spokespeople.
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code1211 said:
At this point, the Swamp is putting up a good fight.

I'll be interested in seeing how it comes out.

The Republican Democrat coalition are doing everything possible to stop Trump from implementing the solutions he describes.

Their various allies in the press are doing what they can to support the fallacies the Democrat Republican Coalition advance.

I'm having a great deal of trouble understanding why fighting the unfair trade actions of China is a bad thing, but everyone is saying that it is. Can you explain it?

How about unifying the population as "Americans", lowering taxes, reducing spending, invigorating the economy and returning power to the people? Why are these things bad?

What you call "career professionals", I assume like Andy McCabe, I call un-indicted co-conspirators. The same ID applies to many swamp creatures, some of whom we already know from the IRS and the DOJ and both political parties.

The career professionals are not yet gone. The battle rages on.
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The first thing to do is examine the term "Unfair Trade Practices" and understand it is a subjective situation. Many of Chinas trade deals are indeed unfair in the minds of us and completely Kosher to them. We must also consider the unforeseen but relatively obvious results of instigating a trade war which will heavily damage or destroy many American businesses and barely touch China.

If Trump was working toward these thing it would be great...instead he is dividing the population (by race, gender and status) increasing our debt, giving tax breaks to the rich and making money from his office.
 
Floridafan said:
The swamp isnt being drained, its larger, bigger, deeper than ever before. In fact its overflowing with Trump appointees.
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It way to big for most to see it being eaten away. Look at the regulatory part for now. That takes away more power from the establishment than it seems.
 
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If Trump was working toward these thing it would be great...instead he is dividing the population (by race, gender and status) increasing our debt, giving tax breaks to the rich and making money from his office.[/QUOTE]

The same was said about Obama but, in his case, it was actually true.
 
WCH said:
It way to big for most to see it being eaten away. Look at the regulatory part for now. That takes away more power from the establishment than it seems.
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Another thing a lot of the "regular people" don't realize is that everything Trump is doing on the international trade front is a direct threat to the swamp, since the swamp gets most of their money from international and globalist trade lobbies.
 
WCH said:
It way to big for most to see it being eaten away. Look at the regulatory part for now. That takes away more power from the establishment than it seems.
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The outright corruption of his administration has been enough to fill the swamp for decades to come
 
Mycroft said:
Another thing a lot of the "regular people" don't realize is that everything Trump is doing on the international trade front is a direct threat to the swamp, since the swamp gets most of their money from international and globalist trade lobbies.
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I love that part. Globalism takes freedom from us all.
 
WCH said:
Whose isn't. You know hard it is to find good help these days?
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That a pathetically feeble response, after all Trump promised to hire "only the best".
 
Floridafan said:
That a pathetically feeble response, after all Trump promised to hire "only the best".
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Just because they're suppose to be the best doesn't mean they aren't corrupt.

Trump has gone through several layers looking for the right ones. Of course you bitched about that too.
 
WCH said:
Just because they're suppose to be the best doesn't mean they aren't corrupt.

Trump has gone through several layers looking for the right ones. Of course you bitched about that too.
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So now, the best people can be corrupt also? That sure doesnt say a lot for the republican party.
 
WCH said:
Just because they're suppose to be the best doesn't mean they aren't corrupt..
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What about drain the swamp?
You guys voted for a lying turd and you know it.
 
WCH said:
He replace a lying turd, I know this.
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Has there ever been a president, or even multiple presidents combined, who have lied as much as trump has?
 
Floridafan said:
So now, the best people can be corrupt also? That sure doesnt say a lot for the republican party.
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Yea they damn sure can be.

No matter who is hired, I'm sure you'll bitch. That's all you Lefties have, right?
 
WCH said:
Yea they damn sure can be.

No matter who is hired, I'm sure you'll bitch. That's all you Lefties have, right?
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Your excuse for total incompetence? Who cares if one guy chooses to spend 3 million on unneeded security, or another spends over 125,000 on a door.
 
Floridafan said:
Has there ever been a president, or even multiple presidents combined, who have lied as much as trump has?
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Promises and lies are two different creatures.

I'm done with this back and forth.
 
Floridafan said:
Your excuse for total incompetence? Who cares if one guy chooses to spend 3 million on unneeded security, or another spends over 125,000 on a door.
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You seem to be overly envious of the wealthy...get some help.
 
WCH said:
Promises and lies are two different creatures.

I'm done with this back and forth.
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I am sure you would have been just as casual about this corruption had it happened in the Obama years?
 
WCH said:
You seem to be overly envious of the wealthy...get some help.
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Thats the point, they are not wealthy, but they do want to be so on the public dime. At least DeVos when taking private aircraft pays her own way.
 
Floridafan said:
Has there ever been a president, or even multiple presidents combined, who have lied as much as trump has?
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I don't know, Bubba wasn't a saint, neither was John F. The difference is that we live in the now, with all our technology, no one can get away with anything anymore.
The one thing I admire about BO is that he seems to be a good family man, but calling him truthful...?
 
Lovebug said:
I don't know, Bubba wasn't a saint, neither was John F. The difference is that we live in the now, with all our technology, no one can get away with anything anymore.
The one thing I admire about BO is that he seems to be a good family man, but calling him truthful...?
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trump lies to you every single day, at the least. If you haven't noticed you head has been in the sand for a couple of years.
 
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