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Just look at these Democrats destroying their state.....oh wait.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
 
MrWonka said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
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Yea,, Freeking great out here.. Maybe they can use all that great economy money to pay off the MASSIVE debt that they never seem to talk about.

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/27/will-california-ever-pay-off-its-massive-debt/

https://californiapolicycenter.org/californias-total-state-local-debt-totals-1-3-trillion/

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/california

Sure CA may have a positive cash flow... (on paper anyway) any kind of recession will plunge CA into just more massive debt.

And how is that budget on the new "train" Jerry ordered up?

California bullet train cost surges by $2.8 billion: 'Worst-case scenario has happened'

Good job Jerry.. Good job.

djl
 
You can spin it anyway you want but the State is in decline, more and more I see people moving out while they can still sell property at a price that gives them a good start elsewhere. Many more I hear speaking of moving. The state itself is beautiful, what people in charge are doing to it, not so pretty.
 
ataraxia said:
It’s not just California. If you break up the country into individual counties and cities, turns out the vast majority of the economic productivity and growth of the country comes from the blue areas, even though geographically they represent such a small portion.

Another Clinton-Trump divide: High-output America vs low-output America
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This should be obvious, there aren't many jobs in rural america. Particularly in the reality of our current economic times, where manufacturing jobs, mining jobs, are gone, and they are never coming back. It's going to get even worse when robots do all the manufacturing. This is why the people that voted for Trump because he said he would bring back manufacturing and coal jobs are stupid and got duped. Those are never coming back. They need to embrace change or they will continue to struggle
 
bmr528 said:
Yea,, Freeking great out here.. Maybe they can use all that great economy money to pay off the MASSIVE debt that they never seem to talk about.
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You mean the debt that was accrued under previous Republican administrations that refused to raise taxes to pay for their spending?

bmr528 said:
Sure CA may have a positive cash flow... (on paper anyway) any kind of recession will plunge CA into just more massive debt.
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That is true of pretty much every state in the Union. Recessions tend to have that effect. Better just hope Trump doesn't cause a recession.

bmr528 said:
California bullet train cost surges by $2.8 billion: 'Worst-case scenario has happened'
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We need to massively improve our infrastructure. The single biggest reason we need government to do it is that it can be incredibly expensive and hard to make money off it. You should be happy that your governor is actually taking the initiative to try and improve things. It's a difficult task no doubt, but will almost certainly reap massive rewards for your state long term.
 
Sabre said:
You can spin it any way you want but the State is in decline, more and more I see people moving out while they can still sell the property at a price that gives them a good start elsewhere.
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Sorry buddy, but if the state was in decline the property values wouldn't keep going up. The property values are high because so many people want to live there. The weather definitely helps with that, but more liberal economic policies have the state headed in the right direction.
 
MrWonka said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
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They know exactly what to do - borrow and spend (about 7%) more next year.

His spending plan for 2018 calls for $131.7 billion of general fund spending. Including special funds and bonds, which are pools of restricted money that can only be used for specific projects, total proposed spending next fiscal year is $190.3 billion.
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MrWonka said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
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paywall story
 
MrWonka said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
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List the liberal policies that account for this magical transformation.
 
bmr528 said:
Yea,, Freeking great out here.. Maybe they can use all that great economy money to pay off the MASSIVE debt that they never seem to talk about.

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/27/will-california-ever-pay-off-its-massive-debt/

https://californiapolicycenter.org/californias-total-state-local-debt-totals-1-3-trillion/

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/california

Sure CA may have a positive cash flow... (on paper anyway) any kind of recession will plunge CA into just more massive debt.

And how is that budget on the new "train" Jerry ordered up?

California bullet train cost surges by $2.8 billion: 'Worst-case scenario has happened'

Good job Jerry.. Good job.

djl
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I think it is cute when right wingers pretend to care about deficits and debt
 
MrWonka said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
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Maybe they can pay down the State's debt.

California's budget deficit is back, Gov. Jerry Brown says
"Less than four years after declaring California’s budget balanced for the foreseeable future, Gov. Jerry Brown on Tuesday said the state is projected to run a $1.6-billion deficit by next summer — a noticeable shift in the state’s fiscal stability that could worsen under federal spending cuts championed by President-elect Donald Trump"


https://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/27/will-california-ever-pay-off-its-massive-debt/

While this story is from 2016,
'California has come a long way to dig itself out of budget deficits, but the state remains on shaky ground due to nearly $400 billion in unfunded liabilities and debt from public pensions, retiree health care and bonds, financial analysts say."


https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

I would be worried about the amount of debt.
 
I could be wrong, but I get the impression you are looking at the state from the outside and not inside.
 
Here's a look from the inside out:

Tammy Bruce: California chaos -- Unchallenged liberalism leaves homelessness, drug abuse, garbage in its wake | Fox News From a article by the LA Times no less..

excerpt from the SFGate Website Article.

In San Francisco, about 7,500 people are homeless according to the last count, but this number is elusive and some believe the number is between 10,000 and 12,000. The city spent $275 million on homelessness and supportive housing in the fiscal year that ended at the end of June—that's a $241 million jump from the year before. The city has budgeted $305 million for the 2017-18 fiscal year. Some of this money has gone to building more shelters. In the Civic Center and Dogpatch neighborhoods, two new Navigation Centers—one-stop shelters aimed at moving people into permanent housing —added 500 more beds.

Lets say 12,000 are homeless in San Fran. The city spent 275 million $$ the last fiscal year, That's right at 23,000$$ per homeless person..

And guess what,, There is still 12,000 homeless people in SF. And they are very aggressive pan handlers.

and lets not forget the SF toilet bowl..

https://www.redstate.com/kiradavis/2017/10/17/san-franciscos-human-poop-map-shows-city-deep-doo-doo/

All this negativity will start to affect tourism, and that is big $$ for the west coast cities..


djl
 
mike2810 said:
Maybe they can pay down the State's debt.

California's budget deficit is back, Gov. Jerry Brown says
"Less than four years after declaring California’s budget balanced for the foreseeable future, Gov. Jerry Brown on Tuesday said the state is projected to run a $1.6-billion deficit by next summer — a noticeable shift in the state’s fiscal stability that could worsen under federal spending cuts championed by President-elect Donald Trump"


https://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/27/will-california-ever-pay-off-its-massive-debt/

While this story is from 2016,
'California has come a long way to dig itself out of budget deficits, but the state remains on shaky ground due to nearly $400 billion in unfunded liabilities and debt from public pensions, retiree health care and bonds, financial analysts say."


https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

I would be worried about the amount of debt.
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I think it is cute when right wingers pretend to care about deficits and debt
 
MrWonka said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-...llion-budget-surplus-in-california-1515624022

It's been so funny over the years watching conservatives desperately try and claim that California is a disaster thanks to liberal policies. Turns out California did struggle for a while there, but that was under Republican Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger. Today, however, after 7 years of full democratic control California is once again flying high with an incredibly strong economy and more money than they know what to do with.
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Yeah, but Jerry Brown is gonna be cuttin out in November, so we'll have to wait and see what happens.
 
sangha said:
I think it is cute when right wingers pretend to care about deficits and debt
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So do I. :mrgreen: I also think it is cute when left wingers want to keep borrowing money to pay for all the programs.

Do you disagree with my statement that the surplus could be used to pay some of the debt?
(if you note: I also am an independent.)
 
I love California but a government having more money than it knows what to do with is not something to be proud of.
 
mike2810 said:
So do I. :mrgreen: I also think it is cute when left wingers want to keep borrowing money to pay for all the programs.

Do you disagree with my statement that the surplus could be used to pay some of the debt?
(if you note: I also am an independent.)
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The surplus could also be used to feed puppies, which are cuter than debts
 
Sabre said:
You can spin it anyway you want but the State is in decline, more and more I see people moving out while they can still sell property at a price that gives them a good start elsewhere. Many more I hear speaking of moving. The state itself is beautiful, what people in charge are doing to it, not so pretty.
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People moving out you say?

1970 19,953,134
1980 23,667,902
1990 29,760,021
2000 33,871,648
2010 37,253,956
2017 population of 39.497 million (est)
source
 
bmr528 said:
Yea,, Freeking great out here.. Maybe they can use all that great economy money to pay off the MASSIVE debt that they never seem to talk about.

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/27/will-california-ever-pay-off-its-massive-debt/

https://californiapolicycenter.org/californias-total-state-local-debt-totals-1-3-trillion/

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/california

Sure CA may have a positive cash flow... (on paper anyway) any kind of recession will plunge CA into just more massive debt.

And how is that budget on the new "train" Jerry ordered up?

California bullet train cost surges by $2.8 billion: 'Worst-case scenario has happened'

Good job Jerry.. Good job.

djl
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Skeptic Bob said:
I love California but a government having more money than it knows what to do with is not something to be proud of.
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I think you folks on the right need to decide whether CA has too much money or not enough.
 
Sabre said:
You can spin it anyway you want but the State is in decline, more and more I see people moving out while they can still sell property at a price that gives them a good start elsewhere. Many more I hear speaking of moving. The state itself is beautiful, what people in charge are doing to it, not so pretty.
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If California's a 'bad state for business,' why is it leading the nation in job and GDP growth?

State and federal statistics released as recently as Friday make it clear: California is smoking hot, economy-wise.

The state gained 40,300 jobs in June and 461,000 over the year. With a gain of 2.9%, that was the best 12-month record of any large state except Florida, which won by a nostril with a gain of 3%, and much better than the nation as a whole (1.7%). According to the congressional Joint Economic Committee, California leads the nation in growth in its gross domestic product, which grew by 4.2% in 2015 — more than twice the national rate.
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bmr528 said:
Yea,, Freeking great out here.. Maybe they can use all that great economy money to pay off the MASSIVE debt that they never seem to talk about.

https://www.ocregister.com/2017/09/27/will-california-ever-pay-off-its-massive-debt/

https://californiapolicycenter.org/californias-total-state-local-debt-totals-1-3-trillion/

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/california

Sure CA may have a positive cash flow... (on paper anyway) any kind of recession will plunge CA into just more massive debt.

And how is that budget on the new "train" Jerry ordered up?

California bullet train cost surges by $2.8 billion: 'Worst-case scenario has happened'

Good job Jerry.. Good job.

djl
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Don't forget the whole "we want a 15$ minimum wage crap" getting more traction then ever...

Or the amount of people fleeing silicon valley.. when this state crashes, its going to be the most beautiful destruction I've seen in a long time.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
This should be obvious, there aren't many jobs in rural america. Particularly in the reality of our current economic times, where manufacturing jobs, mining jobs, are gone, and they are never coming back. It's going to get even worse when robots do all the manufacturing. This is why the people that voted for Trump because he said he would bring back manufacturing and coal jobs are stupid and got duped. Those are never coming back. They need to embrace change or they will continue to struggle
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Can you take your hate and bile somewhere else please?
 
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