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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sampson Simpson View Post
    First off, this is a deflection, the topic is the Republicans

    Second, at least the left wants to spend it on Americans, to help americans, not for killing brown people all over the world and being bullies for US corporate interests, while giving 1% of the population that already has 90% of the wealth in this country millions and billions in tax breaks



    Yup, watched Lincoln last night. This line from Gettysburg Address "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

    Unfortunately it has perished. Our government is of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations.

    At least the left is aware and wants to fight that while many on the right just bend over and take it, while cheering it on



    It works, in filling the defense contractors coffers with billions of dollars of taxpayer money
    You're good at race baiting hackery, have anything enlightening to say? Republicans are all about killing brown people? Dude, you have no credibility. I think we'll see you eventually burn out here.
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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.




    The Deficit, with a capital D, is something the Republicans "care about" only when a Democrat, with a capital D, is in the White House.
    Whats the alternative?

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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Spending not wasting.
    You said spending, did you not?
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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I left it out because the discussion was about presidents, not congress.
    The thread is about how Republicans never actually cared about deficits/debts, unless the other party had control. Look up the Two Santa Theory.
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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by eman623 View Post
    No, that's a bullsh*t meme that was dreamed up to further the class warfare. It's an accounting trick. You can't get trillion dollar deficits without every state getting far more than they pay to the feds.
    That is quite the claim there. How about a link?

    Pssst, I've got one.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/

    Most Dependent States:

    01. Kentucky
    02. Mississippi

    03. New Mexico
    04. Alabama
    05. West Virginia
    06. South Carolina
    07. Montana
    08. Tennessee

    09. Maine
    10. Indiana
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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That is quite the claim there. How about a link?

    Pssst, I've got one.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/

    Most Dependent States:

    01. Kentucky
    02. Mississippi

    03. New Mexico
    04. Alabama
    05. West Virginia
    06. South Carolina
    07. Montana
    08. Tennessee

    09. Maine
    10. Indiana
    Its a meaningless claim, as is the labeling of blue vs red. States do not control who lives in their state, whether they pay taxes, or whether they receive federal benefit. 50% of taxes is paid by the top 5% and most of them live in "blue states", though they certainly arent liberals. Meanwhile millions of poor liberals live in 'red' states.

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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Its a meaningless claim, as is the labeling of blue vs red. States do not control who lives in their state, whether they pay taxes, or whether they receive federal benefit. 50% of taxes is paid by the top 5% and most of them live in "blue states", though they certainly arent liberals. Meanwhile millions of poor liberals live in 'red' states.
    More reasons to ditch the labelling altogether.
    I'm not going to chase you while you run around with the goalpost in your arms.

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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That is quite the claim there. How about a link?

    Pssst, I've got one.

    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/

    Most Dependent States:

    01. Kentucky
    02. Mississippi

    03. New Mexico
    04. Alabama
    05. West Virginia
    06. South Carolina
    07. Montana
    08. Tennessee

    09. Maine
    10. Indiana
    A link for what? The trillion dollar deficit? Here you go!

    https://www.usgovernmentspending.com...cit_chart.html
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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Actually this link is more definitive where the money os going and to whom. It's not a coincidence that the states that get the most per-capita federal money are the ones around Washingtone DC. The house always takes its cut off the top and pays out what is left to the suckers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...al_fiscal_2013

    Top 10 states:
    District of Columbia
    Virginia
    Maryland
    Alaska
    Hawaii
    New Mexico
    Maine
    Alabama
    Connecticut
    West Virginia
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    Re: Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Trump hasnít changed the Republican Party. It never cared about the deficit.




    The Deficit, with a capital D, is something the Republicans "care about" only when a Democrat, with a capital D, is in the White House.
    Still waiting for an answer. R aint care about deficits. Ok, so whats the alternative? Elect D who care even less? Elect better R's? Elect D pres, so R will care, but we'll still end up with deficits?

    How about a constitutional amendment to balance the budget in peacetime so it wont matter who is in office?

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