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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    no idea what your point is? Do you? if so please share
    My point is that SS, Medicare/Medicaid and the ACA are good things, the first two successful for 70/50 years, supported by most people and both parties despite Ryan’s Ayn Rand fantasies. The ACA now supported by democrats and most people, and even by republicans who want to replace the ACA, presumably with something better in their view. The welfare state is hear to stay, though reformable if necessary, both in the US and the rest of the developed world.

    You are free to come up with better ideas and run with them. Perhaps we need new models this century.

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Or maybe they don't really believe what they tell you they believe in?
    obviously a fickle politician will believe in whatever fickle votes believe in. Is this concept really new to you?

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    yes, the socialist nanny welfare communist state has to be stopped before we get more of a communist result!
    I presume that is your vote. Mine is to keep the socialist, nanny etc. state, as are the votes of the rest of the developed world. We are all socialist, except on different subjects.

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    Republicans don't support debt and deficits in fact they have tried 30 times to make deficits illegal. Do you understand?
    Do you understand that every single Republican President has left office with a higher deficit than when he was sworn in? Why do you think that is? Clinton balanced the budget and ran a surplus then Bush got elected and doubled our debt.... Get it now?
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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    My point is that SS, Medicare/Medicaid and the ACA are good things,
    not for those who would have 5 times more without them. Welfare is good for those who get it and bad for those who pay for it. Moreover it cripples and criminalizes those who receive it. Our founders came here to be be free not to mooch off others. Now you know the basic principle of America

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Do you understand that every single Republican President has left office with a higher deficit than when he was sworn in? Why do you think that is? Clinton balanced the budget and ran a surplus then Bush got elected.... Get it now?
    obviously not enough support to balance budget or make deficits illegal

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    I presume that is your vote. Mine is to keep the socialist, nanny etc. state, as are the votes of the rest of the developed world. We are all socialist, except on different subjects.
    yep socialism slowly starved 120 million to death. Do you think Obama Sanders will tell you they want a soviet result here too as govt grows always bigger?

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    so if 100% of the people want a balanced budget we will not have one because this is not a democracy?
    Can the liberal explain??
    Because Republican Presidents alway increase deficits when they are in office. If we never elected a Republican we would have a balanced budget. Clinton proved that.
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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because Republican Presidents alway increase deficits when they are in office. If we never elected a Republican we would have a balanced budget. Clinton proved that.
    you mean Newt proved the opposite by forcing Clinton to go along when Republicans took over house for first time in 40 years. We will have a balanced budget as soon as democrats join republicans in making deficits illegal.

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    Re: Why Do liberals Support Massive Deficits and Debt?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    who are we to believe you or author of Constitution who said general welfare was permitted only within context of the few enumerated powers given to federal govt and charity is not allowed?
    Our Constitution is the Bible for the militia of the United States.

    Paying the debts, and providing for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, is what is enumerated as delegated to Congress.

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