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Rexedgar

Rexedgar

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22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
 
Rexedgar said:
22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
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The Republican party got so locked in to obstruction when Obama was in the white house that they're incapable of governing. Hell, they enjoyed opposition so much I wouldn't be surprised if they tanked the next elections so they can go back to saying, "No!" instead of saying, "How?"
 
Rexedgar said:
22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
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Your personal budget is not delegated to folks that couldn't care less if it is beneficial or even done at all.
 
Rexedgar said:
22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
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Since this is a repeat of US actions in the past, I assume it is part of some plan. Trump thinks with dollar signs, so this will save dollars. Dems think this will save their bacon by revealing Trump to have zero empathy for the less fortunate and the immigrants that this Nation was founded upon. Presidential aspirants of both parties see this as an opportunity to rub Trump's nose in some dog turd or cast shade, as the millenials say. Foreigners say, "those morons have done it again." Justin O. Peewillie sends his son Justin to the 7-11 to get beer, pop, chips, pretzels and assorted snacks to last a few weeks becasue they know this is gonna make better TV wathing than "Dumb and Dumber." The downside is that we are still stuck with Citizens United's tax cuts.
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Grand Mal said:
The Republican party got so locked in to obstruction when Obama was in the white house that they're incapable of governing. Hell, they enjoyed opposition so much I wouldn't be surprised if they tanked the next elections so they can go back to saying, "No!" instead of saying, "How?"
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Republicans were elected in droves because voters realized that Democrats can't govern.
 
Rexedgar said:
22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
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I’d like to see Trump write an EO denying pay to those laid off. They can use vacation, instead of paying them as if they were at their posts.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Yeah you keep telling yourself that.
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And what is your explanation for Democrats losing over 1000 seats during the last several years? Oh yeah, gerrymandering. Well, first off, you can't gerrymander unless you won in the first place. Second, please explain to me how the presidency, the Senate, governorships, and state legislatures can be gerrymandered. They can't. Voters threw Democrats out on their asses because they didn't like the way Democrats govern. OK, so I admitted it, Democrats can govern, it's just that voters don't like they way that they govern.
 
Moderate Right said:
And what is your explanation for Democrats losing over 1000 seats during the last several years? Oh yeah, gerrymandering. Well, first off, you can't gerrymander unless you won in the first place. Second, please explain to me how the presidency, the Senate, governorships, and state legislatures can be gerrymandered. They can't. Voters threw Democrats out on their asses because they didn't like the way Democrats govern. OK, so I admitted it, Democrats can govern, it's just that voters don't like they way that they govern.
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Do we know each other? How do you know what I think? Do you even give people a chance to respond?
 
Moderate Right said:
And what is your explanation for Democrats losing over 1000 seats during the last several years? Oh yeah, gerrymandering. Well, first off, you can't gerrymander unless you won in the first place. Second, please explain to me how the presidency, the Senate, governorships, and state legislatures can be gerrymandered. They can't. Voters threw Democrats out on their asses because they didn't like the way Democrats govern. OK, so I admitted it, Democrats can govern, it's just that voters don't like they way that they govern.
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Historically, the democrats have had some of the poorest cities, while republicans have had the poorest states.

However, a democrat will almost always fail to tell you why the republican's state is poor. While the republican can rather easily, tell you why those cities are doing so poorly.

I most likely butchered the quote, seeing as its been like a decade since I've heard it.
 
Oborosen said:
Historically, the democrats have had some of the poorest cities, while republicans have had the poorest states.

However, a democrat will almost always fail to tell you why the republican's state is poor. While the republican can rather easily, tell you why those cities are doing so poorly.

I most likely butchered the quote, seeing as its been like a decade since I've heard it.
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And it wasn't true then either. Republican states, like West Virginia, were poor and getting poorer because the GDP of the state was based upon coal, tobacco, cotton, etc. Things that were becoming less in demand or moving offshore. They refused to give up "their way of life" and just kept hoping it would all come back.
Democrat cities, like Detroit, on the other hand watched the manufacturing leave for cheaper pastures with nothing taking it's place. They both share the blame for not seeing the oncoming storm and acting pro-actively to deal with it. But they didn't.
But what everyone should remember is that it is not the fault of those who live there, grew up there, thought they had a future there. It is the fault of those who were supposed to represent them. It is the fault of the companies who had roots in those communities for years but couldn't see a way to make it work. Or maybe they just got greedy for an extra 5% on the gross.
Wherever you live, whatever you do. There is a chance that the people you work for will decide that you and your co-workers are not worth what you cost. Remember that. There, but for the grace of luck, go I.
 
Oborosen said:
Historically, the democrats have had some of the poorest cities, while republicans have had the poorest states.

However, a democrat will almost always fail to tell you why the republican's state is poor. While the republican can rather easily, tell you why those cities are doing so poorly.

I most likely butchered the quote, seeing as its been like a decade since I've heard it.
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That is a rather flawed comparison. Democrats don't just have the poorest cities, they run virtually every major city in the country and have for decades. Yeah, Democrats run Detroit, but they also run Seattle, Denver, Houston, Dallas, Boston, Minneapolis, and so on.

Hell cities are the only place Democrats never lost power in. That is their problem though as their voters tend to be very concentrated, while Republican voters are much, much more spread out. Democrats are basically the large cities and the inner ring suburbs (with a college town thrown in here and there). Republicans are basically the out ring suburbs and every where else. Democrats need to figure out that they have to support their moderates again as well or they will never win far enough out in the suburbs to win back majorities in state legislators and congress.
 
Oborosen said:
Historically, the democrats have had some of the poorest cities, while republicans have had the poorest states.

However, a democrat will almost always fail to tell you why the republican's state is poor. While the republican can rather easily, tell you why those cities are doing so poorly.

I most likely butchered the quote, seeing as its been like a decade since I've heard it.
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I want to know what insight that Republican has!!
 
Rexedgar said:
22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
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Not ironic. That would be something like a "Tax Cuts & Jobs Act" that fired people. Two different issues here. One is revenue, one is outlays. The tax act affected revenue, and the shutdown affected outlays, and was caused by failure of congress to pass spending bills by last October (combined with democrats refusing to pass CRs over immigration) Ok. Three issues.

Good news is even if govt is shut down, IRS isnt, so they keep getting our money, though less of it that before the act.
 
Grand Mal said:
The Republican party got so locked in to obstruction when Obama was in the white house that they're incapable of governing. Hell, they enjoyed opposition so much I wouldn't be surprised if they tanked the next elections so they can go back to saying, "No!" instead of saying, "How?"
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The Democrat party liked the GOPs obstruction so much they decided to try it themselves! Hell, they enjoy it so much I wouldn't be surprised if they tanked the next elections so they can keep saying, "No!" instead of saying, "How?"
 
Critter7r said:
I want to know what insight that Republican has!!
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I think it would boarder along the lines of "stop letting the inner cities suffer like that". Though that would be my own interpretation of the situation.
 
Rexedgar said:
22DEC17 President trump signed the “Tax Cuts & Jobs Act.” Less than thirty days later, we find our government shut, finger pointing abundanza and no one knows where the money is going to come from for veterans, troops and all other ‘non-essential’ services. My personal budget won’t stand that sort of upheaval.
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Everyone still gets paid, just the paycheck is delayed. Government shut down is really an unexpected vacation for government employees, but with vacation pay delayed until you come back from vacation. Unless you live, paycheck to paycheck, the shut down equals more unexpected holidays. The only people who get screwed are the tax payers who pay for services not rendered.

It would make more sense if a government shut down was a way for the Government shut down to save money. It should not be designed by leadership to punish the tax payers with no services, while still having to pay government employees to stay home. That is a rip off. What would happen if the plumber charged to fix the toilet and he stayed home and provided no services? The only conditions is the money is not due for one week. Would you pay for no services? It demonstrates how government rips you off and spins it by blaming someone else; smoke screen.

If the shut down only hurt the Government employees, internally, the leaders would be more careful the next time. If they screw the tax payers, like it is set up, this is no big deal, since they do this all the time, in other ways. The next time the government shuts down citizen should requite all government employees show up for work without pay, so they continue to get services. It is not the tax payers fault. The tax payers will still get their services.

There have been 18 previous shut downs, where tax payers got screwed and government employees still get paid vacation. It would be fair that the next 18 shut downs should benefit the tax payer; lower the tax burden via the same services for free. There needs to be a national referendum.
 
Moderate Right said:
Republicans were elected in droves because voters realized that Democrats can't govern.
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I assume you are sucking off socialist VA SS Medicare benefits?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the C grabber fan said.
Dems can't govern?? Reading too much breitbart?
2017 was the worst job creation in 10 years
2017 lower GNP than 2016?
Stock market up but 1 St year lower than Obamas first year growth.
Pity most of the c grabber cult are too poor to own stocks
 
Moderate Right said:
And what is your explanation for Democrats losing over 1000 seats during the last several years? Oh yeah, gerrymandering. Well, first off, you can't gerrymander unless you won in the first place. Second, please explain to me how the presidency, the Senate, governorships, and state legislatures can be gerrymandered. They can't. Voters threw Democrats out on their asses because they didn't like the way Democrats govern. OK, so I admitted it, Democrats can govern, it's just that voters don't like they way that they govern.
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No just emphasizes how stupid most c grabber fans are.
All white
All you have to do is shout America First, our WWII Nazi group name and the white boys fall into line.

LeatAm crabber what ult are
 
YorkshirePete said:
I assume you are sucking off socialist VA SS Medicare benefits?
Keep the gov out of my Medicare as the C grabber fan said.
Dems can't govern?? Reading too much breitbart?
2017 was the worst job creation in 10 years
2017 lower GNP than 2016?
Stock market up but 1 St year lower than Obamas first year growth.
Pity most of the c grabber cult are too poor to own stocks
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What? You need to calm down before you post and quit assuming things. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not on any benefits. I don't read Breitbart. Never read one word on it. The Trump economy has been better than the Obama economy.
 
YorkshirePete said:
No just emphasizes how stupid most c grabber fans are.
All white
All you have to do is shout America First, our WWII Nazi group name and the white boys fall into line.

LeatAm crabber what ult are
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You need to get down off of your high partisan incoherent horse.
 
Moderate Right said:
What? You need to calm down before you post and quit assuming things. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not on any benefits. I don't read Breitbart. Never read one word on it. The Trump economy has been better than the Obama economy.
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Based on what? 1 year of results vs. 8 years of results? Stock market growth? GDP? Reduction rates of unemployment? Talk about your cherry-picked facts. Which year are you comparing to? The first Obama year? The last? One of the ones in the middle?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...22769454f82_story.html?utm_term=.f1b87d655418

"The economy grew 2.3 percent in 2017, better than the year before, but far short of what Trump is promising."

Please quote some sources for this economy that is booming now so much more than it was a year ago.
 
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