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For every Amazon package it delivers, the Postal Service loses $1.46

You dont realize you are currently complaining about the free market destroying USPS. This is hilarious.


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Incorrect, I am talking about a free market player getting rich off the inability of USPS to adjust rates in the way a free market player would. Your argument is just stubbornly, stupidly ignoring what I am actually saying, not what you want me to be saying.
 
Incorrect, I am talking about a free market player getting rich off the inability of USPS to adjust rates in the way a free market player would. Your argument is just stubbornly, stupidly ignoring what I am actually saying, not what you want me to be saying.

Why are you complaining about this? Aren't you supposed to be a conservative who welcomes the free market winning?
 
Then take it up with the writer of the article who is clearly complaining that the USPS is doing bad because of the free market (amazon). Hence you are complaining about the free market.

Due to its charter afaik, it cannot refuse Amazons packages at the price the rate sheet quotes. All it takes is a simple change, and things will come back into balance and the sun will still come up in the morning.

If they don’t like it, the democrats can run on cutting Amazon’s USPS rate back to where it was.
 
Due to its charter afaik, it cannot refuse Amazons packages at the price the rate sheet quotes. All it takes is a simple change, and things will come back into balance and the sun will still come up in the morning.

If they don’t like it, the democrats can run on cutting Amazon’s USPS rate back to where it was.

The only people who are complaining about this is idiotic Trump supporters. The complaints don't even make sense.
 
Due to its charter afaik, it cannot refuse Amazons packages at the price the rate sheet quotes. All it takes is a simple change, and things will come back into balance and the sun will still come up in the morning.

If they don’t like it, the democrats can run on cutting Amazon’s USPS rate back to where it was.

Oh that's cute, why it's as if one party represents the unsubstantial people.
 
Why are you complaining about this? Aren't you supposed to be a conservative who welcomes the free market winning?

Sigh, how is it you don't understand the implied issue?

Amazon is making money off a pricing issue with USPS's structure. They are making money at taxpayer expense. IF it were free markets, Amazon wouldn't be making anywhere near the amount of money they are. Because they are making money at taxpayer expense it is not free market, its damn near a subsidy.
 
Sigh, how is it you don't understand the implied issue?

Amazon is making money off a pricing issue with USPS's structure. They are making money at taxpayer expense. IF it were free markets, Amazon wouldn't be making anywhere near the amount of money they are. Because they are making money at taxpayer expense it is not free market, its damn near a subsidy.

But USPS isn't a business, so how is it their fault that it's not part of the free market? Amazon is making money because more people are buying more things on Amazon than sending letters. This is simple math, not a conspiracy.
 
Sigh, how is it you don't understand the implied issue?

Amazon is making money off a pricing issue with USPS's structure. They are making money at taxpayer expense. IF it were free markets, Amazon wouldn't be making anywhere near the amount of money they are. Because they are making money at taxpayer expense it is not free market, its damn near a subsidy.

How is this costing taxpayers a nickel? USPS receives no taxpayer money. Duh?
 
They don't get any from Bezos.

What does that have to do with the thread topic? Bezos wealth is all in stock. When he sells his stocks, he'll pay capital gains, and so far he's paid about $100 mil in Capital Gains over the last 5-6 years. He pays the freight on his salary as well, just like everyone else. He released his tax returns for the past decade last year, and you are shoveling BS again. Amazon equities sink for any reason, it is an inflated stock selling at more than a 1000 x PE, and his wealth is history.
 
You are a tad slow I've noticed, have you statred drinking?

Not yet. I won't serve the brandy and port till after dinner, nor crack the bubbly till midnight.

When you have something of value to offer, get back to me. Otherwise, boring.
 
What does that have to do with the thread topic? Bezos wealth is all in stock. When he sells his stocks, he'll pay capital gains, and so far he's paid about $100 mil in Capital Gains over the last 5-6 years. He pays the freight on his salary as well, just like everyone else. He released his tax returns for the past decade last year, and you are shoveling BS again. Amazon equities sink for any reason, it is an inflated stock selling at more than a 1000 x PE, and his wealth is history.

Yes, the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class does quite well, we all understand that and we know who subsidizes this nonsense.
 
Not yet. I won't serve the brandy and port till after dinner, nor crack the bubbly till midnight.

When you have something of value to offer, get back to me. Otherwise, boring.

You don't want value, you need to be agreed with.
 
USPS has always done a phenomenal job for me and my business.

Where else can I put an envelope in a box, at my own front door, with a .50 cent stamp on it, and have someone take it all the way to California and deliver it for me for me?

Our letter carrier is awesome too. Her name is Jeanette. I want her to have a happy life with her needs provided for. She has a life and a family too. I don't begrudge the .50 cent stamp I put on the envelope.

I love USPS.

I have never had a problem with USPS. The mail is in my mailbox everyday, every piece I have ever sent has been delivered. It's a bargain that I can send mail for 50 cents anywhere in the country.
I have had many packages from Amazon arrive USPS....also Macys, Keurig, EBay, you name it.

I don't know where Trump got the idea that the USPS should be run at a profit. It's a service for the American people. Usually it's the American citizen who is paying the postage for their Amazon package, or any package.
Trump has a beef with Jeff Bezos Donald Trump'''s War with Amazon and Jeff Bezos, Explained | Money and he could care less if his careless remarks impact Americans.
 
This is another ridiculous thread courtesy of the Conservatives. Where were they when the Republican Congress in 2006 made the Postal Service fund their pension system 75 years out. To put this in simpler terms if a baby being born in ten years wanted to one day go work for the postal system his pension would be fully funded 75 years in advance. Why' Because FedEX and UPS lobbied Congress because they were having trouble competing with priority postage. Yes Republicans forced the Postal Service to fully fund the pension system 75 years out in order that they would have to charge bigger postage fees. So now the Walton family of China Mart has lobbied the same buffoons in order to hurt the competition of Amazon. What happened to not picking winners or losers. Please take a laxative Conservatives if you get anymore fuller of crap you will explode
 
This is another ridiculous thread courtesy of the Conservatives. Where were they when the Republican Congress in 2006 made the Postal Service fund their pension system 75 years out. To put this in simpler terms if a baby being born in ten years wanted to one day go work for the postal system his pension would be fully funded 75 years in advance. Why' Because FedEX and UPS lobbied Congress because they were having trouble competing with priority postage. Yes Republicans forced the Postal Service to fully fund the pension system 75 years out in order that they would have to charge bigger postage fees. So now the Walton family of China Mart has lobbied the same buffoons in order to hurt the competition of Amazon. What happened to not picking winners or losers. Please take a laxative Conservatives if you get anymore fuller of crap you will explode

Proof? Links?
 
For every Amazon package it delivers, the Postal Service loses $1.46



The Postal Service is required to deliver to every mailbox or mail slot at the same level and price for everyone. Now that mail has receded, and package delivery has grown, the numbers no longer work. So as taxpayers, we are subsidizing Amazon’s delivery expense.

Being that the Postal Service is a constitutional entity, it will be an open question as to how this changes, but in fairness, it needs to change.

I wouldn't object to paying $1.50 more in shipping costs for what I buy through Amazon. But if the costs go up to the point it is no longer cost effective to buy from Amazon, then I will buy more through Walmart and other big box stores who have sales outlets where we live. Amazon however employs more than 150,000 people most of whom probably pay something in federal income tax plus Amazon pays more than $150 million in federal taxes at a minimum each year. And because Amazon itself has very few products under its own label, it actually brokers sales from thousands of different companies who do business through the Amazon network and all of those companies are also almost certainly paying something federal taxes as well as employing thousands of other employees who are paying something in taxes.

So what is the cost to us taxpayers if Amazon has to scale back operations due to higher costs? Nothing? Something? A lot? Does anybody know?

So it isn't so easy to calculate the overall net revenues versus losses the post office takes delivering Amazon packages and then there is the USPS partnership with Fed Ex and UPS that has to be factored into the equation.

Most government programs are far more expensive that what they collect in revenues for the services rendered. And at face value, I think we all know that it probably shouldn't be that way.

But if Fed Ex and UPS can operate at a profit through efficiency, effectiveness, and technological innovations, how about the Post Office be run the same way? Out on the mountain that forms the eastern boundary of Albuquerque, in a rural most unincorporated area there are three--count them THREE--full service post offices within four miles of each other all stretched along the same highway. I don't think the post offices here in Albuquerque are that close together. Certainly the population out there could be served by one of those facilities and save a considerable amount.

For we the taxpayers, a dollar collected by the tax man is a dollar to us no matter what the government ultimately does with it. So hopefully more gifted economic talent will figure out how one thing affects the other for the maximum benefit of we taxpayers.
 
But USPS isn't a business, so how is it their fault that it's not part of the free market? Amazon is making money because more people are buying more things on Amazon than sending letters. This is simple math, not a conspiracy.

Its funny. I am placing no blame on the USPS, but I believe they should have a more agile policy on pricing to gather more revenue when it becomes obvious their mandate is hamstringing them in pricing on volume.

There you go again, I never claimed a conspiracy. Stop throwing up straw mans.
 
Its funny. I am placing no blame on the USPS, but I believe they should have a more agile policy on pricing to gather more revenue when it becomes obvious their mandate is hamstringing them in pricing on volume.

There you go again, I never claimed a conspiracy. Stop throwing up straw mans.

So to sum up. You a conservative, wants the government to fix what you see is a problem that the free market exploited and made better for themselves (amazon). Odd.
Also, who do you think will pay for the price increases from USPS???
 
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