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For every Amazon package it delivers, the Postal Service loses $1.46

Superfly said:
:lol: Just like clockwork - Trump complains about the USPS, and now all his minions have to complain about it, too.
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Is that what brought this up? Silly.
 
Fenton Lum said:
The corporate state seeks to privatize everything, including our endless wars of empire and economic colonization. Eric Prince took a run at that and he'll be back. What Bezos is, is pretty clear. Buys up the WaPo. Then enters into a deal with the CIA worth 3 times what he paid for the paper. Then puts a CIA operative on the WaPo's editorial board to push more war. America is on an unsustainable path. Watch.
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Are you having a problem with opioids?
 
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RetiredUSN said:
I'm not a Trump guy, but I prefer UPS over the post office.

The post office is chock full of lazy assholes, and incompetence, and I know this from first hand experience.
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I know that guy! :)
 
Superfly said:
Oh I 100% agree with you, there. I hate the USPS. Their package tracking is laughable and their reliability is mediocre at best.

I prefer FedEx over anyone. They seem to be the most reliable - at least to me.
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Nothing is worse than FedEx Home. Nothing. Run separately from the rest of FedEx, delivering on the cheap, and it shows.
 
OpportunityCost said:
In what world is the United States Postal Service part of "free markets"? Its a freaking government entity. Your post is comically stupid.
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The OP is complaining about Amazon.com and how the post office is losing money thanks to them. If you want to say something is stupid context helps before you chime in on it.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Oh goodie!
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I can only infer that my point escaped you. You stated that you thought FedEx and UPS drivers were well paid. I posted that the UPS drivers that I was familiar with were members of the Teamsters Union, well paid, I think. Happy New Year, grog in moderation!
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
The OP is complaining about Amazon.com and how the post office is losing money thanks to them. If you want to say something is stupid context helps before you chime in on it.
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In any conversation in which the USPS is involved free markets should not be part of the argument, because they aren't a part of the free market, they are exactly the opposite of the free market.
 
OldFatGuy said:
The USPS gets no Federal Funding. Yet it is required to maintain post offices where there is almost no demand, make deliveries on Saturdays, and suffers price controls, and subsidized by the USPS governmental and political mailings.

The major source of USPS revenues has been second, third and 4th class bulk mailings. All three have diminished. (could have fooled me considering how much junk mail I receive) Mostly replaced by parcel delivery services. Most of USPS deficits lie in unfunded pension liabilities. After a decade of losses, the past three years prior to 2016 saw major increases in both revenues and profits, with extremely high returns on the sale of US Postal Money Orders and collectible stamps. 2015 saw US Postal Money Orders outpace Welles Fargo for immigrants and green card holders sending home money. The USPS is less expensive than Welles Fargo. Turns out most of losses were caused by equipment upgrades and the self development of computer software which is now paying off, big time. OCR and scanning for Post Office needs was not available in the open markets, and now automatic sorting has diminished workforce needs dramatically. The "Amazon" problem will diminish as Amazon shifts from its own delivery software to the USPS software. Lack of synchronization has created the losses. Should be completed within the next 18 months.
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Informative.
 
OpportunityCost said:
In any conversation in which the USPS is involved free markets should not be part of the argument, because they aren't a part of the free market, they are exactly the opposite of the free market.
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Then take it up with the writer of the article who is clearly complaining that the USPS is doing bad because of the free market (amazon). Hence you are complaining about the free market.
 
Rexedgar said:
I can only infer that my point escaped you. You stated that you thought FedEx and UPS drivers were well paid. I posted that the UPS drivers that I was familiar with were members of the Teamsters Union, well paid, I think. Happy New Year, grog in moderation!
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Many years ago, during winter, I used to break down (unload) UPS trucks, and eventually I got moved up to the sorting line. You are correct, UPS drivers are union teamster members, the teamsters represented everyone working on the floor in the UPS building be it unloading trucks or sorting too. Management in UPS is not union though.

Many years before that I had a second job I went to at night. That was washing down FedEx trucks with long poles with the scrub brush on them and then our supervisor would hose them down. We had to hump fast on that job too. But I'm not sure who the hell I was working for then, it wasn't union, I got hired through someone I knew who was working for the company FedEx contracted with to wash its trucks x number of nights per week. I don't think FedEx is union either. I think if we were talking political parties FedEx would be Republicans and UPS would be Democrats.

That was an interesting period when I worked part time at night at a FedEx building washing trucks and then during the day working a full time job, because I was paid so low on both I was always nearly broke, particularly when my car would repeatedly break down. Paydays were a paradox because I simultaneously liked getting paid and would be mad pissed off every time I got my check due to how small they were. :lol:
 
OldFatGuy said:
Nothing is worse than FedEx Home. Nothing. Run separately from the rest of FedEx, delivering on the cheap, and it shows.
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Well I'm not going to pretend like I know the difference between FedEx and FedEx Home. I just know that FedEx delivers to me like clockwork. From the moment the package is tendered to FedEx until the moment it's in my hand, I know where it is, and what time it will be here. It's never late, it's never lost and it's never damaged. Never. And I order a ton of **** online, and have done so for years.
 
Superfly said:
Oh I 100% agree with you, there. I hate the USPS. Their package tracking is laughable and their reliability is mediocre at best.

I prefer FedEx over anyone. They seem to be the most reliable - at least to me.
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Yes it is. My mother in law had to send some important documents to the state capital.
She paid for confirmation insurance faster delivery.

they called her a few days later and said well you mail must have been shredded by the machine.
There is no scan for it leaving the office but it did arrive. Sorry about that click.

Lucky for her I was able to find everything online.
I got it taken care of. I will use ups all day long.
 
Superfly said:
Well I'm not going to pretend like I know the difference between FedEx and FedEx Home. I just know that FedEx delivers to me like clockwork. From the moment the package is tendered to FedEx until the moment it's in my hand, I know where it is, and what time it will be here. It's never late, it's never lost and it's never damaged. Never. And I order a ton of **** online, and have done so for years.
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Be thankful. FedEx Home, never on time, loses packages daily, tracking never works right, damaged packages de riguer. No reflection on regular FedEx.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Be thankful. FedEx Home, never on time, loses packages daily, tracking never works right, damaged packages de riguer. No reflection on regular FedEx.
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Is it similar to SmartPost?

I prefer shipping services like FedEx and UPS to have my package from bow to stern. I don't want any random **** ups along the way. Any time a package gets tendered to the USPS, like SmartPost, there's going to be drama. When I have a package delivered, I verify that it's not shipped from any point with USPS, or I will pay more for expedited shipping, to keep the USPS's grubby little mediocre paws off of it.
 
So it might soon go bankrupt then. Huh.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Then take it up with the writer of the article who is clearly complaining that the USPS is doing bad because of the free market (amazon). Hence you are complaining about the free market.
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Once again you dismiss a basic element. The USPS is not a free market player or they would be charging all the traffic would bear, which would cut Amazon's profits fairly hard.
 
Superfly said:
Is it similar to SmartPost?

I prefer shipping services like FedEx and UPS to have my package from bow to stern. I don't want any random **** ups along the way. Any time a package gets tendered to the USPS, like SmartPost, there's going to be drama. When I have a package delivered, I verify that it's not shipped from any point with USPS, or I will pay more for expedited shipping, to keep the USPS's grubby little mediocre paws off of it.
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I don't know. Never seen SmartPost.

Here, the USPS has been doing a mostly good job.
 
Crovax said:
I have never gotten an amazon package from the postal service
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If I buy from a third party it is USPS - maybe half the time,

Otherwise it seems to be UPS (or DHL in the past)
 
USPS has always done a phenomenal job for me and my business.

Where else can I put an envelope in a box, at my own front door, with a .50 cent stamp on it, and have someone take it all the way to California and deliver it for me for me?

Our letter carrier is awesome too. Her name is Jeanette. I want her to have a happy life with her needs provided for. She has a life and a family too. I don't begrudge the .50 cent stamp I put on the envelope.

I love USPS.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Once again you dismiss a basic element. The USPS is not a free market player or they would be charging all the traffic would bear, which would cut Amazon's profits fairly hard.
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You dont realize you are currently complaining about the free market destroying USPS. This is hilarious.


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RetiredUSN said:
You folks? The post office could die tomorrow and I wouldn't give a ****.

Fedex and UPS delivery drivers make pretty good money.
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Too bad, just saw a USPS truck go by on schedule, happy holidays.
 
Fenton Lum said:
White america is, rural america is, this society is. Are you american in any way?
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Is what? Tell me, what color am I? I'd say you're pathetic, but that gives you more respect than you've earned.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Is what? Tell me, what color am I? I'd say you're pathetic, but that gives you more respect than you've earned.
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Well if you can follow the thought, is dealing with societal opiod addiction.
 
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