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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Really? Clinton got us a budget surplus that was going to pay off our entire federal debt by 2012 (until Bush 43 pissed it away). Obama inherited an epic economic s**t sandwich and was still able to cut the deficit in half.

    The Republicans, on the other hand, well...y'all just voted for a tax cut (overwhelmingly benefiting the rich) that will cost taxpayers at least $1.5T...and even that figure's on the assumption that we'll have wonderful, tremendously bigly growth. Oh, and let's not forget Dick Cheney's quip: "Reagan proved deficits don't matter".

    Could it be that maybe, just maybe the Democrats have become the fiscally-conservative party, while the Republicans have tossed all sense of economic conservatism out the window? 'Cause that's sure what the numbers seem to show.
    I have little interest debating whether the Clinton surplus was sustainable. As much of the revenue from the capital gains due to the dot com bubble went away with the subsequent crash. Nor do I care to discuss Bush I or II as I thought they were both morons and did not vote for either.

    Funny when we talk about how most of the new tax plan will help the rich. If you watch CNBC the rich are complaining that they will pay more under this plan. The hosts live in NY or NJ, hence will get whacked with the elimination of SALT.

    All this being said, I read nothing of substance worthy of debate. Find a suitable right wing hack to go back forth with.

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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I have little interest debating whether the Clinton surplus was sustainable. As much of the revenue from the capital gains due to the dot com bubble went away with the subsequent crash. Nor do I care to discuss Bush I or II as I thought they were both morons and did not vote for either.

    Funny when we talk about how most of the new tax plan will help the rich. If you watch CNBC the rich are complaining that they will pay more under this plan. The hosts live in NY or NJ, hence will get whacked with the elimination of SALT.

    All this being said, I read nothing of substance worthy of debate. Find a suitable right wing hack to go back forth with.
    "Not worthy of debate"? Fine - that's up to you. But here's a lesson I learned when it came to the complaints of the rich. When I was growing up in the MS Delta, the richest people were the cotton and soybean farmers - they'd get a new truck every couple years and their houses were the nicest around. But when you sat around and talked with them, they'd complain for days on end how the weather was going to destroy their crops, how the prices of their crops was too low to make any money, how they didn't think they'd be able to make it through the year.

    That's when I learned to not pay too much attention when it comes to the wealthy complaining about how they're gonna lose so much money...'cause they're whining so pitifully, all the way to the bank.
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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Trump prolly gonna file Chapter 1929 for merca B4 he leaves office .....................
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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Tell us then exactly how Obama "bloated the debt by 8 trillion."
    https://www.thebalance.com/national-...-obama-3306293

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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cuban smokes View Post
    Trump prolly gonna file Chapter 1929 for merca B4 he leaves office .....................
    True because it's not like a single Obama budget produced the same addition to the national debt or anything.

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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
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    It will take a long, long time, to pay off the obligations the GOP has now saddled America with.
    How long will it take to pay off the $10 trillion that Obama added?
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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How long will it take to pay off the $10 trillion that Obama added?
    Don't mention Obama or you may get the usual retort: "He's gone" "He's not in office" "Stop being stuck in the past" and of course "The topic is Trump."

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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by worksforpigs View Post
    From your link:
    The fairest method is to measure the debt incurred by Obama's specific policies. The Congressional Budget Office does this for every program. The CBO found that Obama's largest contribution to the debt was the Obama tax cuts, which were an extension of the Bush tax cuts.

    They added $858 billion to the debt in 2011 and 2012.
    That's very true.
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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Tell us then exactly how Obama "bloated the debt by 8 trillion."
    Here's a hint: There's a thing called subtraction. You should try it some time. Take the national debt on 1/20/2017, then SUBTRACT the national debt on 1/20/2009 and get back to us.
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    Re: Trump's pathetic bankruptcy past shows through in GOP's fantasyland tax bill

    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    Here's a hint: There's a thing called subtraction. You should try it some time. Take the national debt on 1/20/2017, then SUBTRACT the national debt on 1/20/2009 and get back to us.
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