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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    dont disagree with that, but how much of an investment did the owner make to make that happen?

    that was his cash that went into computers, automation, and training....to get the better resultswhy should the employees get any part of that? what investment did they make?

    if a company makes advances in systems, procedures, and tech to reduce employees by 100, and therefore save 5 million a year, but it cost a 15 million dollar to accomplish....good for the owner

    some other company got a nice boost with his investment, and maybe he will take his extra profits and turn them into another new venture
    I'm not disagreeing with any of that or saying whether it's good or bad ... just pointing out that it's happening, and that increased productivity is where a lot of the additional income is coming from for the top earners. The employees are getting more done for no increase in wages, the owners are getting more production from their employees for the same wage, while being able to decrease their workforce.
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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Yep anything with substance and numbers and facts is all propaganda while someone's opinion is the absolute truth. No need to tell you anything because you know it all. Kind of like the average 19 year old.
    You guys only talk about the facts that you want to talk about while dismissing everyone else's facts. That's the way you play the game.

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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Critter7r View Post
    I think the point is that computers and automation are what caused productivity to skyrocket. Allowing corporations to continue to make ever-increasing profits while employing fewer and/or lower-paid employees.
    what is the purpose of a corporation

    1) to be the source of jobs for employees

    2) to make profits for those who own them

    and if a corporation no longer needs certain employees to create profit, does the Corporation have a duty to keep them employed?
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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what is the purpose of a corporation

    1) to be the source of jobs for employees

    2) to make profits for those who own them

    and if a corporation no longer needs certain employees to create profit, does the Corporation have a duty to keep them employed?
    I was not assigning a moral value to the action I described, only stating that it's happening.
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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    back in the 70's they starting hiring guys who went thru companies, weeding out employees that were superfluous

    efficiency experts....today, that role belongs to guys like me

    my job is to make the company run the most efficient way possible, at the lowest cost possible

    my pay is dependent upon how well i perform my job

    yes, at times it sucks that good people lose positions that we no longer need

    but then and now, i have to think about the health of the total company, not just a few employees

    and i think most executives think the same way i do....
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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    I've paid my fair share many times over. The results of this bill are egregious for folk in my position. It will translate as less generosity for philanthropies.
    You seem to take a liberal line on every issue. So paying more in taxes to the government shouldn't be a problem for you.

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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    You guys only talk about the facts that you want to talk about while dismissing everyone else's facts. That's the way you play the game.
    That's "yuse guys" and at least we have facts.
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    Re: New York's Wealthiest Are Moving Out

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    That's "yuse guys" and at least we have facts.
    The right has facts to. You just don't accept them.

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