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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You're just moving goal posts on me..
    I think you might be conflating an honest willingness to do a good job with a politically motivated honest willingness to run cover for one candidate and attack another there.

    Meuller could easily have put together a team beyond reproach. He did not. He put together a team of billary activists directly involved with proactively steering multiple political investigations. This will eventually come out in the wash regardless. We already have deep staters stupidly revealing themselves at many levels of government.
    The less stupid ones that hide until the heat abates will do more damage to the country in the coming years undermining the public confidence in US institutions.
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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    I think you might be conflating an honest willingness to do a good job with a politically motivated honest willingness to run cover for one candidate and attack another there.
    In your first post on this thread that I responded to, you criticized the "deep state" for getting upset at the Sec. of Treas and other political appointees burying, deleting, research that contradicted their lies about the cost of the tax cuts. Mnuchin claimed the OTP had produced analysis that concluded the tax cuts would raise revenue and he lied about that. I don't see it as a negative that career people are objecting to political appointees LYING about major tax bills.

    So then you moved the goal posts to texts, which don't show what you're claiming there, or if they do, quote them.

    Meuller could easily have put together a team beyond reproach. He did not. He put together a team of billary activists directly involved with proactively steering multiple political investigations. This will eventually come out in the wash regardless. We already have deep staters stupidly revealing themselves at many levels of government.
    The less stupid ones that hide until the heat abates will do more damage to the country in the coming years undermining the public confidence in US institutions.
    The guy in question was removed from the investigation months ago - in July as I recall. And if you want to claim that his team is just a bunch of "billary activists" then back it up. Who among the major members of his team is just a political hack? How many of the many involved in the investigation are? Name some names. Etc.

    And my point that you clipped and ignored was that there is no requirement for investigators to be neutral to their targets. In this case because it's a political investigation, that is important, but showing that Strzok didn't like Trump - even despised him - is NOT evidence of wrongdoing on his part in the investigation, much less evidence that Mueller's team is just a bunch of hacks out to destroy Dear Leader. When it's all said and done, the evidence will or should speak for itself, and there is no reason to suspect that the Mueller team overall is doing anything but following evidence where it takes them.

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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    In your first post on this thread that I responded to, you criticized the "deep state" for getting upset at the Sec. of Treas and other political appointees burying, deleting, research that contradicted their lies about the cost of the tax cuts.
    If they are right then it needs to be brought out.. There is no evidence of that as of now. Right now there is a large pattern of deep staters getting axed or investigated. This fits right in so far.
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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    If they are right then it needs to be brought out.. There is no evidence of that as of now. Right now there is a large pattern of deep staters getting axed or investigated. This fits right in so far.
    Why are you deleting parts of my comments that directly address your next comment?

    "Mnuchin claimed the OTP had produced analysis that concluded the tax cuts would raise revenue and he lied about that." That report hasn't been released, so it's either not been prepared, or it's been prepared and contradicted his assertions.

    And then you just ignored the rest of my comment as if I didn't make it to reassert something I also addressed, and move the goal posts from the specific to something so general no one can address it. This is tiring....

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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Why are you deleting parts of my comments that directly address your next comment?

    "Mnuchin claimed the OTP had produced analysis that concluded the tax cuts would raise revenue and he lied about that." That report hasn't been released, so it's either not been prepared, or it's been prepared and contradicted his assertions.

    And then you just ignored the rest of my comment as if I didn't make it to reassert something I also addressed, and move the goal posts from the specific to something so general no one can address it. This is tiring....
    Address what? You saying Muchin lied based on anonymous sources?

    Off an article posted by a well known reporter famous for messing up the facts?

    New York Times Tries To Factcheck Gary Johnson On Aleppo, Repeatedly Steps On A Rake Instead
    "Alan Rappeport of the New York Times quickly published the definitive piece for the paper of record excoriating Johnson for his ignorance. Unfortunately for Rappeport, his piece was also riddled with errors. Unlike Johnson, who was asked a question on the spot, the New York Times reporter had the Internet, paid editors, and all the time in the world to help him avoid making a bunch of embarrassing errors."

    Not buying it. Right now this will all come out in the wash and I will wait a couple of weeks for another shoe to drop before making any conclusion other than observing the present pattern.

    Mueller did take action. He concealed the depth of his tainted investigation from the congressional oversight committee for months.

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    More Clinton ties on Mueller team


    "Andrew Weissmann attended Hillary Clinton’s election-night party at the Javits Center in New York City. Fox News reported earlier this week that Weissmann in January also praised departing acting Attorney General Sally Yates after she was fired for refusing to defend President Trump’s travel ban. "

    "Aaron Zebley, a former partner at WilmerHale and a former chief of staff to Mueller when he served as FBI director, represented Justin Cooper, a key figure in the Clinton email controversy. "

    "Cooper is the longtime Bill Clinton aide responsible for helping set up the now-infamous private email server. Cooper later admitted to “two instances where he destroyed [Hillary] Clinton’s old mobile devices by breaking them in half or hitting them with a hammer.”"

    "Jeannie Rhee, another former partner at WilmerHale, represented ex-Obama National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes, the Clinton Foundation in a 2015 racketeering case, and Hillary Clinton herself in a lawsuit seeking access to her private emails. "

    "Strzok was involved in a host of significant developments in both the Clinton and Russia probes. He was present during the FBI’s July 2016 interview with Hillary Clinton at the close of the email investigation, shortly before then-FBI Director James Comey called her actions “extremely careless” but did not recommend any criminal charges.

    Strzok also oversaw the FBI’s interviews with Trump’s fired national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty last week to lying to FBI investigators in the Russia probe. "
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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Address what? You saying Muchin lied based on anonymous sources?

    Off an article posted by a well known reporter famous for messing up the facts?
    Where's the report? I'll answer that - it doesn't exist.

    Since the thread is about Mnuchin lying I'll not delete the rest of your post.

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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Where's the report? I'll answer that - it doesn't exist.

    Since the thread is about Mnuchin lying I'll not delete the rest of your post.
    So you have a blind accusation with no proof off anonymous accusers. I am ok with that.

    I posted the sourced pattern that runs against that traffic. I am fine with leaving it there.
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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Yep, and the tax bill likely voted through next week creates a massive amount of complexity, and it will be abused, because that's exactly correct. Tax lawyers are salivating at the prospect of the loopholes opened up. It's a big reason I oppose these POS bills. Written in near total secrecy, largely by lobbyists, rushed to vote with no time for the public to read, much less comment, on the changes - what could go wrong?!
    Absolutely! Only 23% of Americans want this Billionaire-favoring tax plan. Write your Congressman and Senators, and tell them that if they vote for this, they will lose your vote.

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    Re: Mnuchin Scams the Tax-Cuts, claims they pay for themselves

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    So you have a blind accusation with no proof off anonymous accusers. I am ok with that.

    I posted the sourced pattern that runs against that traffic. I am fine with leaving it there.
    LOL. If he's not lying, he released the report. Cite it.

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