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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    When all the 2nd home owners sell their 2nd's there will be a housing glut and values will fall, so will tax income, I guess you'll just raise the rate? How about learn to live on less, like working people do, govt. needs to learn that a little bit better.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Where’s your problem with increasing prices? That brings money into the town in many ways.
    Not necessarily when it is just a summer/weekend home. A permanent resident would be contributing more to the local economy.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Once again, why should the OP pay less when he and other summer/weekend home buyers are driving up housing costs for the working class man trying to afford that first home? Why should he pay less when he is contributing less to that community's local economy than the person/family that would permanently live there?
    The tax rate on a piece of property shouldn't be determined by whether or not the owner spends money in the community. If I own 2 houses next door to one another, I still pay non-homestead tax on the one I don't live in, even though I live and spend in the community.

    And again, he's not looking to pay LESS than others (I assume), but the non-homestead rate is higher than the rate paid by homesteaders.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    When all the 2nd home owners sell their 2nd's there will be a housing glut and values will fall
    If all the 2nd home owners sold their 2nd homes then there would be a drop in housing costs meaning more people could afford them. There would also be less urban sprawl and urban blight.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Critter7r View Post
    The tax rate on a piece of property shouldn't be determined by whether or not the owner spends money in the community. If I own 2 houses next door to one another, I still pay non-homestead tax on the one I don't live in, even though I live and spend in the community.

    And again, he's not looking to pay LESS than others (I assume), but the non-homestead rate is higher than the rate paid by homesteaders.

    Homesteaders contribute more to the local economy. 2nd/3rd homers drive urban sprawl/blight which is costly to the taxpayers. I have absolutely no problem with them paying more.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    What I'm saying is, I pay a school tax within the state on 3 properties I own, the rental units could easily have children in them so I don't mind paying school taxes on them even if kids don't currently occupy the property, however taxing me twice for something is overboard. A good retort to paying the extra school tax is this. We lost our 2nd home to super storm Sandy, my insurance paid a certain amount, but FEMA gave us nothing (I'm not saying they should, but FEMA paid to every other home owner if it was their first home), because it was a 2nd home. If I can pay taxes like everyone else, why don't I get the full benefit like everyone else?
    Thats messed up about FEMA. Of course living in Florida I can see why. Lots of multi-million dollar vacation homes on the coast. FEMA inly has so many resources so makes sense they focus on a primary residence. I see the argument either way.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Homesteaders contribute more to the local economy. 2nd/3rd homers drive urban sprawl/blight which is costly to the taxpayers. I have absolutely no problem with them paying more.
    I own several homes in the community in which I reside. I spend money in the community (I volunteer and have a seat on the city council too!). Non of them are blighted. All the increased tax does is drive up the rental price for my tenants.
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Critter7r View Post
    I own several homes in the community in which I reside. I spend money in the community (I volunteer and have a seat on the city council too!). Non of them are blighted.
    Sprawl leads to urban blight. That is why suburbs continue to expand and we continue to see vacancies towards the cities.


    All the increased tax does is drive up the rental price for my tenants.
    If the property tax focused away from the value of the house and towards the value of the site then the deadweight loss is lessened.

    We should, however, note that a hypothetical property tax system which taxes pre-development land value and (post- development) raw site value at the same rate, and exempts (post-development) structure value from taxation, is neutral does not affect the developer's choice of development time and density...
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    FEMA doesn't get any of your property tax money.
    So then why do they discriminate against me and those like me. Equal protection under the law, no?
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    Re: Paying school tax on 2nd homes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lefty louie View Post
    I/e own a 2nd home we use on weekends and summer vacation, we don't rent it out so there is no possible way of us ever using the school district, yet we pay about 50% of or $3,000 property tax towards the school district.

    It's gotten to the point we're thinking about listing the house and spending that 6K on a summer rental for 6 weeks, we'd still save thousands over the course of a year and not have the headache of homeownership.
    If you had purchased your second home in the conservative shangri la of Somalia you would have nothing to complain about. low taxes and lots of beach front property.
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