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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Just perception, based on observation, but... I suspect that the right could come up with the most awesome tax cut and reform that would be of great benefit to the middle class and the poor, give them virtually everything they want and need, and yet the left would still complain if by chance the wealthy someone got some small benefit, too.

    Lower/middle class get what it needs, left's response is: " ZOMG! More tax cuts for the wealthy! This is so unfair!"
    Unfortunately you have zero evidence to support this hypothesis because the current tax plan is blatant class-and-partisan warfare.
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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

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    someone appears to be triggered. If that is going to upset you, perhaps this isn't the place for you. Trump supporters are called far worse
    oh, that explains why Trump supporters are always so pissed off, they are triggered all the time, gotcha! now I'm going to have to be extra gentle around them, lest they melt like a ... SNOWFLAKE!

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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by LostArtist View Post
    oh, that explains why Trump supporters are always so pissed off, they are triggered all the time, gotcha! now I'm going to have to be extra gentle around them, lest they melt like a ... SNOWFLAKE!
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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Hey, here's a wild one:

    The final version of the tax plan, which was released Friday and is set for votes next week, eliminates the tax deduction for alimony payments. Right now, alimony payments are tax free for the payer, and they're taxed like regular income for the recipient. Since the recipient usually makes less money -- and is thus in a lower tax bracket -- it keeps more money in the family unit and away from Uncle Sam.

    Alimony will now be taxed under GOP bill - Dec. 15, 2017
    Not expected at all. Betcha some good ol' boys aint gonna be too happy with this one.
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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    I definitely don't agree with the idea that scholarships and grants are treated as income and can be taxed, especially if used solely for education and education expenses.

    It makes it incredibly difficult for those that have to earn every penny of their education through hard work and scholarship to follow through and better themselves. I truly hope this does not remain in the final bill.

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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's a bit like those "You may have just won a zillion dollars" ads that come in the junk mail. After a while, you just don't believe them any more.
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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckiechan View Post
    The democrats were completely happy with Obama's moribund economy and the shrinking of the middle class, and millions of illegals waltzing in to the job market offering to work for less, and the nations debt climbing to record levels. For business, he stuck a thumb in their eye by wrapping them in regulations until they gave up and hid.

    True, Obama inherited a tough hand. But he had a choice to make: Social change or economic rescue. He chose social change through demographic change and the destruction of the American identity as a diverse group of people, to tribes within a jungle.

    Why?

    And why are they against a republican tax plan that promises to be a job creator, and a benefit to all workers.

    Class warfare of the Obama years brought pain and suffering to the middle class, make the rich richer, and didn't help the poor one bit.


    Democrats don't want economic success except "their way", which has been proven not to work.
    Illegal immigrant populations were flat during Obama years. In many periods, they were negative. He did not substantially change deportation rates from the last few decades.

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    Obama's presidency was 7 and a half years of job gains and economic growth. Could have been better if he hadn't pursued healthcare reform first, but it also could have been better if he hadn't been stonewalled by the tea party.

    Your claims of "social change" and "Class warfare" are a conservative blog fueled fantasy. Please provide some evidence of that. He argued against reinstating Bush tax cuts for the wealthy because they didn't work. He didn't overturn DOMA. The supreme court did. The Dream act is just simple common sense and compassion. WTF are you talking about?

    Also, by the way, it is the supply side economic theory that the Repubs base their tax plan and economic ideas on that have been 100% without a doubt proven to not work.

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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Unfortunately you have zero evidence to support this hypothesis because the current tax plan is blatant class-and-partisan warfare.
    Absolutely! Only 23% of Americans want this Billionaire-favoring tax plan. Write your Congressman and Senators, and tell them that if they vote for this, they will lose your vote.

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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by Media_Truth View Post
    Absolutely! Only 23% of Americans want this Billionaire-favoring tax plan. Write your Congressman and Senators, and tell them that if they vote for this, they will lose your vote.
    and yet, it looks like it will pass. Who do our representatives and senators actually represent?
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    Re: Tax cuts: close-mindedness from the left

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and yet, it looks like it will pass. Who do our representatives and senators actually represent?
    the money that keeps them getting elected. Just like it has always been. The problem is that there were enough competing interests in business.. to end up keeping the politician doing things that generally helped everyone. Now.. the polarization of the electorate is complete, and business/corporations have become more concentrated, and more powerful.
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