DACA elimination & the devastating consequences to Social Security & Medicare

ttwtt78640 said:

All wonderful arguments for allowing legal immigration but not valid arguments for open borders or granting head of line privileges to those that jumped the border or overstayed a visa. That is flipping the middle digit to those (fools?) that are patiently waiting in their homelands for pemission to legally enter the US.

Using only those "dreamers" that are now contributing adults (by working illegally?) is also dishonest - the DACA policy is enetered as a minor and remained here five years which includes many minors that pay no taxes and use plenty of services. What do you expect the economic impact of 6 to 15 year old "dreamers" is going to be when their illegal alien parents are deported? Oh yeah, that means we need DAPA too.

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MTAtech said:

It's really sad to see the continuing dominance of Reaganolatry.

The Reagan economy was a one-hit wonder. Yes, there was a boom in the mid-1980s, as the economy recovered from a severe recession. But while the rich got much richer, there was little sustained economic improvement for most Americans. By the late 1980s, middle-class incomes were barely higher than they had been a decade before -- and the poverty rate had actually risen.

The growth under Clinton was higher than that under Reagan and included increases in prosperity to the middle class.

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fmw said:

Trump is facing the dilemma Obama did. He faces a do nothing congress. While I like that personally, I have to say that government by pen and phone is terrible because it gets upended by the next president. There is no continuity. Lack of continuity is bad for the economy. Given that, then let's work on cutting the government down to size to improve its efficiency.

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Oreo said:

Trump is the wrong guy for that one. He has proposed child care subsidies--(aka another Obamacare type program) and was all for single payer healthcare. You'll find he'll work much better with the Democrat party than Republicans anyway.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-proposing-child-care-subsidies-1473798499
Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy - Breitbart

In fact this is why a lot of conservative Republicans weren't the least bit interested in Trump. They knew he was no conservative, much less a Republican. In fact, two weeks ago, Chuck Schummer stated on CNN that he's no Republican. Here is quite a comical article about this phenomena. Hillary Clinton would have been more conservative than Trump.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/all...servativerepublican-but-now-i-realize-im-not/

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fmw said:

I don't care about his party affiliation. I don't care about political parties or their agendas. I care about cleaning up Washington and if it is even possible, Clinton definitely would not have been the person to do it. Trump is in office not because of this political lean or his party. He is in power because he is the champion of the common man. If the political parties don't like them then they should find another champion but still a champion of the common man. The elite are going to have to change their ways if they want political power in the future. Trump's base isn't loyal because it is stupid or ignorant of Trump's behavior. The base loyal because Trump is on their side and is the only one on their side. The cartoon misses the point completely.

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Oreo said:

There are alot of Republicans that voted for Trump that DO care. They were just too stupid to realise that Trump was no conservative and no Republican. The cartoon says everthing. For the last 7 years Tea Party members and their right wing talk shows hosts, along with Right wing web sites have attacked what they refer to as "Establishment republicans." Tea Party politicians are the reason, NOTHING gets done. They say NO to everything.

But again--it's NOT Trump that is going to reduce the size of government--that is contrary to what he has already proposed.

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