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The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.[W:409]

Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jbander said:
Sure it is, if you've been put in charge by your master to hate our government. Government involvement stops raw capitalism from eating our children, Ya we should do it your way and have everyone do what ever they like. Point of interest, laws are written to protect us from criminals in our society , regulations are written to protect us from criminals in business. What do right wing economist insist on, that there is no morality in business. Morality doesn't belong in capitalism. Doing it your way is like ok'ing the plague.
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I wouldn't know where to start with addressing your misconceptions.. but then I doubt you would listen to reason anyway.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

iguanaman said:
Sooner or later that is what all of you right wing skinflints end up with. "Let 'em die".

And you kiss your mother with that? We are the wealthiest country in the world you know. Not some 3rd rate loser like Putin's Russia is. He is "letting 'em die" at record rates.
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Maybe so

But obama got there first
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jimbo said:
Going after Obamacare is going after Obama because hate? Or because Black?

Your partially correct in that someone will have to pay for it. Why should that be successful people? They already pay more than 50% of the taxes?

And you claim the right has all the hate.
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Yes, some go after Obama because he is black, some go after the bill because they hate the poor, some worked as hard as they could to destroy ACA then blame the dems.

The GOP owns health care now.
 
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JamesBY said:
Yes, some go after Obama because he is black, some go after the bill because they hate the poor, some worked as hard as they could to destroy ACA then blame the dems.

The GOP owns health care now.
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Utter nonsense. The bill and the bill alone is responsible for the desire to get rid of it.
 
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Captain America said:
So, here's my idea. As simple minded as it might be.

Preface: Government is spending gazillions dollars earmarked for healthcare in one form or another. That is a given. I suggest looking into spending that money differently in the public sector similar to the military business model.

1. Poor person on medicare or charity tax dollars, instead, is sent to a regional government "learning hospital."
2. The first year student at this "learning hospital," does the intake at the counter and passes that info to the second year student.
3. The second year student takes the patient to the examining room and takes vitals, etc., and passes info to the third year student.
4. The third year student looks deeper into the symptoms and decides if it should go to the fourth year or fifth year student, or straight to the top floor where the teaching physicians/doctors, for further review.

Thoughts?
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I nearly died of congestive heart failure. Everyone who treated me...from the local fire department paramedics to the emergency room to the cardiac intensive care unit it spent 3 week in to the cardiac specialists that I regularly see now...are highly trained in their fields. If I had to depend on a first year, second year or third year student during any of this, I wouldn't be here today jousting with fellow forum members.

When I go to see my cardiologist, I see a clerk who does the admin stuff...checks me in. Then I'm seen by an experienced nurse who handles the vitals, verifies and updates my medical records. After that, I see my cardiologist who is a nationally recognized leader in her field. She is the one who tells me what's wrong with me and helps me keep alive. Everyone in that chain has much more than 1, 2 or 3 years experience.

Oh...and I had to laugh when I read your phrase..."charity tax dollars". Kind of a contradiction in terms, wouldn't you say?
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jimbo said:
Utter nonsense. The bill and the bill alone is responsible for the desire to get rid of it.
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Yup, that argument of yours is utter nonsense.

But even so the GOP owns it now.
 
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JamesBY said:
Yup, that argument of yours is utter nonsense.

But even so the GOP owns it now.
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Nuthin' more to add?
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jimbo said:
Nuthin' more to add?
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That is all that needs to be said: it is the GOP's problem, lock stock and health care. With McCain down for a while (permanently), another pillar of stability in the GOP senate is removed.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Fishking said:
What does Trump have to do with anything?
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It's just an example of a non-wage-seeking employee, choose any name, or a generic "person", or the entire class...who cares...did the name "Trump" prevent you from getting it?
 
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Mach said:
It's just an example of a non-wage-seeking employee, choose any name, or a generic "person", or the entire class...who cares...did the name "Trump" prevent you from getting it?
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He's an employer, not an employee.
 
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Fishking said:
He's an employer, not an employee.
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So? In the real world, employees have rights and powers that may be distinct from employers, overlap, or override. Why so arbitrary? It's as though the U.S. model is the only model you are aware of, fixed in time.
 
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jimbo said:
Actually I did read your comments.

Nothing much to respond to.
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You must have missed this part- tell me why I should do anything other then hate the biggest threat this country has. Any thoughts on that.
 
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Mac77 said:
Maybe so

But obama got there first
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They think they can gain everything they want with lies. Come in here and look at what these haters believe are facts, first it just makes you sick and you then should realize that they are the biggest threat to this country and its value, They have to go and they can take the scum bag leader with them.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

SocialD said:
I wouldn't know where to start with addressing your misconceptions.. but then I doubt you would listen to reason anyway.
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There is no misconception. Right wing economist for years have said the conscience isn't party of capitalism/ This guy is trying to say that corporation don't need to be watched over or regulated because they are good guys that can be trusted.
Because that is what I said so he must believe the opposite, which makes him full of the same stuff that the rest of the hater party members are full of.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Mach said:
So? In the real world, employees have rights and powers that may be distinct from employers, overlap, or override. Why so arbitrary? It's as though the U.S. model is the only model you are aware of, fixed in time.
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As the employer is the one that owns the property it seems pretty simply of why that matters.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jimbo said:
The list I posted is the signers of the 1948 human rights treaty. Notably absent is the US. Notably present is a dozen or so of the worst human rights countries around. Anything else?

What is it I don't know about the Obama nuclear treaty with Iran that I should? Obama signed it, Iran didn't. Sent pallet loads of unmarked bills anyway. Anything else I should know?
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Bull**** with a capital B. We have no treaty with Iran concerning nuclear anything. You bull****ting again but I won't let you, Without lies and distortions your hate party wouldn't or couldn't exist. You have no clue what Treaties have to have done for them to even exist to start with, secondly it wasn't ever a treaty. More bull****.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jbander said:
Bull**** with a capital B. We have no treaty with Iran concerning nuclear anything. You bull****ting again but I won't let you, Without lies and distortions your hate party wouldn't or couldn't exist. You have no clue what Treaties have to have done for them to even exist to start with, secondly it wasn't ever a treaty. More bull****.
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You have no clue about anything. Every post you make shows your extreme partisanship and hatred for anyone who disagrees with that extreme partisanship.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

Captain America said:
It is equally amazing how the center-right, center, center-left, left and hard-left hate the current POTUS.
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Clearly they hate him because he is white. How well you tan is the only political issue in this country, after all....
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jbander said:
Bull**** with a capital B. We have no treaty with Iran concerning nuclear anything. You bull****ting again but I won't let you, Without lies and distortions your hate party wouldn't or couldn't exist. You have no clue what Treaties have to have done for them to even exist to start with, secondly it wasn't ever a treaty. More bull****.
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You're correct, we have no nuclear treaty with Iran. A treaty with the US requires Congressional approval. Obama signed the law. Next a treaty requires two signatories. Both countries. Neither happened.

That did not stop Obama from delivering pallet loads of unmarked bills to Iran to satisfy this treaty.

I'm not a member of any hate party. It's obvious who that would be.

You must have missed this part- tell me why I should do anything other then hate the biggest threat this country has.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

jbander said:
There is no misconception. Right wing economist for years have said the conscience isn't party of capitalism/ This guy is trying to say that corporation don't need to be watched over or regulated because they are good guys that can be trusted.
Because that is what I said so he must believe the opposite, which makes him full of the same stuff that the rest of the hater party members are full of.
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People who are confused and have misconceptions always say there is no misconception.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

JamesBY said:
Yes, some go after Obama because he is black, some go after the bill because they hate the poor, some worked as hard as they could to destroy ACA then blame the dems.

The GOP owns health care now.
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hate the poor is a really stupid attempt to attack those who don't think the federal government has the proper power to be running healthcare
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

TurtleDude said:
hate the poor is a really stupid attempt to attack those who don't think the federal government has the proper power to be running healthcare
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Some "who don't the federal government has the proper power to be running healthcare" don't think clearly at all, yes.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

JamesBY said:
Some "who don't the federal government has the proper power to be running healthcare" don't think clearly at all, yes.
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your posts are usually pathetic and that is a pathetic bit of idiocy right there. you are in no position to whine about how others think. you didn't even quote what I said properly.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

TurtleDude said:
your posts are usually pathetic and that is a pathetic bit of idiocy right there. you are in no position to whine about how others think. you didn't even quote what I said properly.
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I am glad to know you think that. It means I am on the right trail almost all of the time. Thank you.
 
Re: The level of hate that the right has for Obama, Is amazing.

JamesBY said:
I am glad to know you think that. It means I am on the right trail almost all of the time. Thank you.
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learn to actually read what was written before engaging in silly grammar nazi nonsense.
 
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