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Remembering JFK in the age of Trump

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This is the hundredth anniversary of the birth of John F. Kennedy, who in my opinion was probably one of the greatest and most visionary presidents of this country, despite his brief and tragically interrupted tenure. I know the man had some moral failures in his personal life. However, there is no question that his powerful leadership, charisma, eloquence, sophistication, integrity, class, intelligence, and judgment were critical in navigating the country through a time of great crisis and opportunity.

From the very delicate balancing of an aggressive stance Knowing when to step back during the Cuban missile crisis, to seizing opportunities for a very muscular involvement in opening up the frontier of space, this was, to paraphrase, the best of times and the worst of times.

I recently had the opportunity to visit his library and museum in the city of Boston. They have clips of his debates with Nixon, recordings of his top-secret discussions with his cabinet members during the depths of the Cuban missile crisis. His speeches, from the inauguration to the ceremonies in the White House celebrating American Nobel laureates. What breadth of vision. What nobility. What class. What intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

It was sad to come out of that museum, and turn on the radio to see what has become of the leadership of this country now. The pettiness, crudeness, boorishness, narrowness of vision. This is not America becoming great again. What this country needs is another JFK. We need a return to Camelot.

If you have any inspiring or interesting quotes from JFK what you would like to share on this thread , it would be welcome. I am sure it would be like a breath of fresh air being locked up and small, dark, and dingy room in which we find ourselves stuck now.

"I look forward to a great future for America - a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."
-John F. Kennedy
 
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I just recently had a thread on JFK regarding his political leanings.

Would you say, even though he was a Democrat, that JFK's ideals were more in line with our modern day Republicans?
 
As the Rometsch case demonstrates, Kennedy's unrestrained sexual appetite threatened his personal and political safety. It also alienated some of the men who were assigned to protect him. Larry Newman remembered the "morale problems" that the president's indiscretions caused among his fellow Secret Service agents. "You were on the most elite assignment in the Secret Service, and you were there watching an elevator or a door because the president was inside with two hookers," said Newman. "It just didn't compute. Your neighbors and everybody thought you were risking your life, and you were actually out there to see that he's not disturbed while he's having an interlude in the shower with two gals from Twelfth Avenue."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realsp...eal-a-man-who-craved-excitement/#636d4ffa71a9

“If I don't have sex every day, I get a headache”
JFK
 
This is the hundredth anniversary of the birth of John F. Kennedy, who in my opinion was probably one of the greatest and most visionary presidents of this country, despite his brief and tragically interrupted tenure. I know the man had some moral failures in his personal life. However, there is no question that his powerful leadership, charisma, eloquence, sophistication, integrity, class, intelligence, and judgment were critical in navigating the country through a time of great crisis and opportunity.

From the very delicate balancing of an aggressive stance Knowing when to step back during the Cuban missile crisis, to seizing opportunities for a very muscular involvement in opening up the frontier of space, this was, to paraphrase, the best of times and the worst of times.

I recently had the opportunity to visit his library and museum in the city of Boston. They have clips of his debates with Nixon, recordings of his top-secret discussions with his cabinet members during the depths of the Cuban missile crisis. His speeches, from the inauguration to the ceremonies in the White House celebrating American Nobel laureates. What breadth of vision. What nobility. What class. What intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

It was sad to come out of that museum, and turn on the radio to see what has become of the leadership of this country now. The pettiness, crudeness, boorishness, narrowness of vision. This is not America becoming great again. What this country needs is another JFK. We need a return to Camelot.

If you have any inspiring or interesting quotes from JFK what you would like to share on this thread , it would be welcome. I am sure it would be like a breath of fresh air being locked up and small, dark, and dingy room in which we find ourselves stuck now.

Awesome post. I see Trump very much as the JFK of our time.
 

Let's play Name that Politician

Ready? Okay!

Strong military = peace

Tax cuts to promote economic growth

Racial Quotas are a bad thing

Unregistered abortions are wrong

Loves him some good ol' fashioned gun rights

Free-enterprise system anyone?


And let us not forget the famous quote: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

So... can you Name that Politician?!?!?!?!??!
 
I recently had the opportunity to visit his library and museum in the city of Boston. They have clips of his debates with Nixon, recordings of his top-secret discussions with his cabinet members during the depths of the Cuban missile crisis. His speeches, from the inauguration to the ceremonies in the White House celebrating American Nobel laureates. What breadth of vision. What nobility. What class. What intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

It was sad to come out of that museum, and turn on the radio to see what has become of the leadership of this country now. The pettiness, crudeness, boorishness, narrowness of vision. This is not America becoming great again. What this country needs is another JFK. We need a return to Camelot.

If you have any inspiring or interesting quotes from JFK what you would like to share on this thread , it would be welcome. I am sure it would be like a breath of fresh air being locked up and small, dark, and dingy room in which we find ourselves stuck now.

I know what you mean; the JFK library is a great museum and a monument to the days when erudition and intelligence weren't political liabilities (I made a trip over there on his 100th birthday back in May).

Anyway, it's a little more than a quote but my lengthy contribution here will be JFK's Madison Square Garden speech arguing for the creation of Medicare:

 
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He put his pants on the same way as any other man...the only difference is nothing is kept secret anymore...nothing is off limits...
 
Let's play Name that Politician

Ready? Okay!
...

Name 'im!

“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”
 
The press went after JFK pretty harshly. Compare and contast how he dealt with the criticism:

JFK on the press, and the presidency, in a free society. Watch. pic.twitter.com/dsr61wEeo4

— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) February 18, 2017

“I think it is is invaluable,” said Kennedy, when asked by NBC journalist Sander Vanocur if he still read the news.

“It is never pleasant to be reading things frequently that are not agreeable news,” he continued, “but I would say it is invaluable arm of the presidency as a check really on what is going on in administration.”

Kennedy went on to say the absence of a free press in the “totalitarian system” of the Soviet Union at the time was a “terrific disadvantage” for their country.

“Even though we never like it, and even though we wish they didn’t write it, and even though we disapprove, there isn’t any doubt that we could not to the job at all in a free society without a very, very active press,” he said.

Trump, who has frequently lashed out at the press, labeled the media “the enemy of the American people” in a tweet Friday, in response to the coverage of his administration’s bumpy first month.


Here’s how JFK responded to criticism from the media

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2017/02/18/heres-how-jfk-responded-to-criticism-from-the-media
 
This is the hundredth anniversary of the birth of John F. Kennedy, who in my opinion was probably one of the greatest and most visionary presidents of this country, despite his brief and tragically interrupted tenure. I know the man had some moral failures in his personal life. However, there is no question that his powerful leadership, charisma, eloquence, sophistication, integrity, class, intelligence, and judgment were critical in navigating the country through a time of great crisis and opportunity.

From the very delicate balancing of an aggressive stance Knowing when to step back during the Cuban missile crisis, to seizing opportunities for a very muscular involvement in opening up the frontier of space, this was, to paraphrase, the best of times and the worst of times.

I recently had the opportunity to visit his library and museum in the city of Boston. They have clips of his debates with Nixon, recordings of his top-secret discussions with his cabinet members during the depths of the Cuban missile crisis. His speeches, from the inauguration to the ceremonies in the White House celebrating American Nobel laureates. What breadth of vision. What nobility. What class. What intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

It was sad to come out of that museum, and turn on the radio to see what has become of the leadership of this country now. The pettiness, crudeness, boorishness, narrowness of vision. This is not America becoming great again. What this country needs is another JFK. We need a return to Camelot.

If you have any inspiring or interesting quotes from JFK what you would like to share on this thread , it would be welcome. I am sure it would be like a breath of fresh air being locked up and small, dark, and dingy room in which we find ourselves stuck now.

It is my opinion the WWII generation was one of a kind. Most were born before the great depression and served during WWII, some went a bit further and served in Korea. Look at how historians ranked the president, FDR 2nd, Truman 6th, Eisenhower 8th, JFK 11th.

I was born right after WWII ended. I grew up under Truman, IKE and JFK. LBJ ended the string ranked 14th. Outside of Reagan, not one president since LBJ has broken into the top 20. Reagan was ranked 15th. Perhaps living through the Great Depression and severing in WWII helped give these men insights others has lacked. Now Nixon, Ford, Carter also lived during the depression and WWII. But something set those from FDR thru LBJ a part from the rest. Reagan was the last one to have experienced both.

I would say they viewed the world through a unique perspective. I would say today's leaders certainly leave a lot to be desired.
 
Raul Castro should put up a JFK monument. It was Kennedy that withdrew air support, sending Castro opponents into slaughter.
 
I just recently had a thread on JFK regarding his political leanings.

Would you say, even though he was a Democrat, that JFK's ideals were more in line with our modern day Republicans?

what a lot of people today don't understand is back during IKE, JFK, LBJ etc. both parties had their conservative and liberal wings. The Democrats had the solid conservative south and the Republicans had the liberal, Rockefeller Republicans of the Northeast. The two parties really weren't divided left and right like today. JFK cut taxes and was more or less a war hawk. He was also a social liberal or progressive. Ideological wise there wasn't that much difference between JFK and Nixon in 1960.
 
Let's play Name that Politician

Ready? Okay!

Strong military = peace

Tax cuts to promote economic growth

Racial Quotas are a bad thing

Unregistered abortions are wrong

Loves him some good ol' fashioned gun rights

Free-enterprise system anyone?


And let us not forget the famous quote: "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

So... can you Name that Politician?!?!?!?!??!

That quote alone distances Kennedy from today's democrat.
 
Raul Castro should put up a JFK monument. It was Kennedy that withdrew air support, sending Castro opponents into slaughter.

That's why the majority of Cuban Americans still vote (R).
 
Would you say, even though he was a Democrat, that JFK's ideals were more in line with our modern day Republicans?

No, not really. I would like to hear any Republican politician today say something like this, rather then tell the poor that they are that way just because they're stupid and lazy and it's not society's job to help them.

"If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich."
-John F. Kennedy
 
No, not really. I would like to hear any Republican politician today say something like this, rather then tell the poor that they are that way just because they're stupid and lazy and it's not society's job to help them.

"If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich."
-John F. Kennedy

Your quote is literally in direct antithesis to the JFK quote I stated earlier.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Did JFK play us all?!
 
Considering the Trump administration ... my, how far we've fallen.
 
I have long said that I am a Kennedy Democrat. JFK today would not recognize either party and would **** on both.
 
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