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    Re: Trump to propose scrapping student loan forgiveness program

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    without student loans though many kids wouldn't be able to afford college. nor could they get a job that would
    pay enough to support them going to school and living at the same time.
    The mix of job types changes very little, except all the high paying jobs we lost when president Clinton sighed the free trade agreements.

    Go ahead. Give everyone a 4 year degree,.

    Now it will be a requisite to have such a degree to flip burgers for a fast food joint.
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    Re: Trump to propose scrapping student loan forgiveness program

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    The mix of job types changes very little, except all the high paying jobs we lost when president Clinton sighed the free trade agreements.

    Go ahead. Give everyone a 4 year degree,.

    Now it will be a requisite to have such a degree to flip burgers for a fast food joint.
    I never would have gotten my 4 year degree without the SL program.
    also you will only see that when minimum wage gets to 15 an hour.

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    Re: Trump to propose scrapping student loan forgiveness program

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    This program, which was difficult for me to agree with at first because of being a fiscal conservative, has grown on me because it seems in line with the GI Bill, Bootstrap Program, and other similar programs the government uses to recruit and keep people that serve the nation.

    I don't have a problem with improving the program with changes going forward, but whatever agreements that were made and acted upon already, should be honored without change.
    What Trump proposes is not important. He, unlike Obama, is less likely to ignore existing law. The law was passed by Congress and it will need to be Congress who rescinds it.

    The devil is always in the details of these things. Is the program working as intended? Or is it being exploited while not providing the benefits it was intended to provide? These things I am not finding information on, and that would strongly affect my opinion as to whether the program needs to be phased out. So many one-size-fits-all federal initiatives are not as efficient, effective, or economical as grass roots efforts will be.

    We fund so much stuff that really benefits nobody but those in government just because the program has a fancy, compassionate or noble sounding title on it. Those are what I hope the government will focus on and look to eliminate. That is one of the several reasons President Trump is in office as he is far more likely to do that than any of the establishment Republicans. And I doubt an establishment Democrat would do that at all.

    I don't think any of us know enough about it to make an informed decision at this time. I'll reserve my opinion until after the debates and testimony that will affirm the value of the program one way or the other.
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    Re: Trump to propose scrapping student loan forgiveness program

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    I never would have gotten my 4 year degree without the SL program.
    also you will only see that when minimum wage gets to 15 an hour.
    I won't pretend to know individual situations, and know there are exceptions to most things as well.

    I'm OK with student loan programs except I say the criteria needs to be tightened, and everyone pays back. Please stop with the entitlement mentality of "loan forgiveness."
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