"Michelle Obama on Trump admin's school lunch policy: "what's wrong with you?"

ataraxia · May 13, 2017

Good nutrition in childhood has been found to be a key foundation of learning and being able to pay attention. Many kids, contrary to popular opinion especially in the right, come from food insecure homes. The food they get at school may be the only decent meal they get all day, and the only chance to provide them with the nutrients they will need to grow in a healthy manner both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Michelle Obama expressed concern Friday over the Trump administration's decision to scale back school meal nutritional requirements.

"You have to stop and think, 'Why don't you want our kids to have good food at school? What is wrong with you, and why is that a partisan issue?" Obama said at the annual summit of the Partnership for a Healthier America, a nonprofit that works with the private and public sectors to fight childhood obesity. "Why would that be political?"

Michelle Obama slams Trump on school meals - CNNPolitics.com

Well Mrs. Obama, when you come from a world view that believes that success or failure is purely dependent on the individual, and has nothing to do with social support or socioeconomic situation, I can see how stuff like this can happen. Let the kids go hungry, and then when they fail, tell them because it's because they're stupid and lazy. That will teach them to be more responsible, right?

"Moms, think about this," she said. "I don't care what state you live in. Take me out of the equation; like me, don't like me, but think about why someone is OK with your kids eating crap."

ludin · May 13, 2017

ataraxia said:
Good nutrition in childhood has been found to be a key foundation of learning and being able to pay attention. Many kids, contrary to popular opinion especially in the right, come from food insecure homes. The food they get at school may be the only decent meal they get all day, and the only chance to provide them with the nutrients they will need to grow in a healthy manner both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Well Mrs. Obama, when you come from a world view that believes that success or failure is purely dependent on the individual, and has nothing to do with social support or socioeconomic situation, I can see how stuff like this can happen. Let the kids go hungry, and then when they fail, tell them because it's because they're stupid and lazy. That will teach them to be more responsible, right?

No the bigger question is what was she thinking in pushing that ridiculous policy. the typical liberal attitude I know better than you.

https://twitter.com/search?q=#thanksmichelleobama&lang=en&lang=en

if you want them to have a decent meal then let the local school system decide what is best for them.

ttwtt78640 · May 13, 2017

ataraxia said:
Good nutrition in childhood has been found to be a key foundation of learning and being able to pay attention. Many kids, contrary to popular opinion especially in the right, come from food insecure homes. The food they get at school may be the only decent meal they get all day, and the only chance to provide them with the nutrients they will need to grow in a healthy manner both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Well Mrs. Obama, when you come from a world view that believes that success or failure is purely dependent on the individual, and has nothing to do with social support or socioeconomic situation, I can see how stuff like this can happen. Let the kids go hungry, and then when they fail, tell them because it's because they're stupid and lazy. That will teach them to be more responsible, right?

How does not requiring a 100% whole-grain-rich standard or meeting very low sodium targets and allowing *gasp* 1% dairy fat in flavored milk "let kids go hungry"? These dietary changes advocated by Michele Obama were made to fight childhood obesity - not to fight hunger.

Mac77 · May 13, 2017

ataraxia said:
Good nutrition in childhood has been found to be a key foundation of learning and being able to pay attention. Many kids, contrary to popular opinion especially in the right, come from food insecure homes. The food they get at school may be the only decent meal they get all day, and the only chance to provide them with the nutrients they will need to grow in a healthy manner both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Well Mrs. Obama, when you come from a world view that believes that success or failure is purely dependent on the individual, and has nothing to do with social support or socioeconomic situation, I can see how stuff like this can happen. Let the kids go hungry, and then when they fail, tell them because it's because they're stupid and lazy. That will teach them to be more responsible, right?

Liberal kids - the ones not aborted by their liberal moms - may go hungry if mom decides to spend her limimited budget to get her nails done instead of buying food

But conservative moms will feed their kids whether the government funds a school lunch/breakfast/dinner program or not

code1211 · May 13, 2017

ataraxia said:
Good nutrition in childhood has been found to be a key foundation of learning and being able to pay attention. Many kids, contrary to popular opinion especially in the right, come from food insecure homes. The food they get at school may be the only decent meal they get all day, and the only chance to provide them with the nutrients they will need to grow in a healthy manner both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Well Mrs. Obama, when you come from a world view that believes that success or failure is purely dependent on the individual, and has nothing to do with social support or socioeconomic situation, I can see how stuff like this can happen. Let the kids go hungry, and then when they fail, tell them because it's because they're stupid and lazy. That will teach them to be more responsible, right?

In many households, the parents take steps to assure that the children are well cared for.

In other households, the children are abused by the assertive control of affection, nutrition or discipline.

Will school lunches correct all inadequacies of parental abuse?

Parenting is a daunting task. Many are charged with it that are not equipped to handle it. The inability to feed a child, even when receiving government assistance, is proof of this.

We have laws that allow the mother-to-be to avoid that responsibility.

Should those laws be extended to prevent the mother-to-be from having to face that choice in the future?

At what point is the abuse of children recognized as a criminal act?

bubbabgone · May 13, 2017

ataraxia said:
Good nutrition in childhood has been found to be a key foundation of learning and being able to pay attention. Many kids, contrary to popular opinion especially in the right, come from food insecure homes. The food they get at school may be the only decent meal they get all day, and the only chance to provide them with the nutrients they will need to grow in a healthy manner both physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Well Mrs. Obama, when you come from a world view that believes that success or failure is purely dependent on the individual, and has nothing to do with social support or socioeconomic situation, I can see how stuff like this can happen. Let the kids go hungry, and then when they fail, tell them because it's because they're stupid and lazy. That will teach them to be more responsible, right?

"Moms, think about this," she said. "I don't care what state you live in. Take me out of the equation; like me, don't like me, but think about why someone is OK with your kids eating crap."

I heard that the kids thought Michelle's food WAS crap. An apple and "mystery mush" is how it was described.

ataraxia · May 13, 2017

Mac77 said:
Liberal kids - the ones not aborted by their liberal moms - may go hungry if mom decides to spend her limimited budget to get her nails done instead of buying food

But conservative moms will feed their kids whether the government funds a school lunch/breakfast/dinner program or not

Cool story bro. But here is what is happening in Trump voting areas here in the real world:

More than 1 in 4 West Virginia children live in a household that does not have sufficient access to food. 60% of West Virginia school aged children qualify for free or reduced priced school meals. That's more than 173,000 children whose family household income is below or nearly below the federal poverty level. Sadly, the meals provided at school may be the only food many children have access to each day.
https://wvde.state.wv.us/feed-to-achieve/hunger.html

Good thing they voted for Trump. Now when their kid goes hungry and flunks out of school, we will laugh at them too for being stupid and lazy.

RickJames3000 · May 13, 2017

ludin said:
No the bigger question is what was she thinking in pushing that ridiculous policy. the typical liberal attitude I know better than you.

https://twitter.com/search?q=#thanksmichelleobama&lang=en&lang=en

if you want them to have a decent meal then let the local school system decide what is best for them.

If you took your time and thought before you posted, you'd realize that it was the local systems themselves that served those crappy lunches to the kids of their district.
And you want less government regulation?

That's an idiotic position.

MrPeanut · May 13, 2017

ataraxia said:
Cool story bro. But here is what is happening in Trump voting areas here in the real world:

Good thing they voted for Trump. Now when their kid goes hungry and flunks out of school, we will laugh at them too for being stupid and lazy.

My sister is an elementary school teacher here in WV, and my wife is part of a local community service group. They both spend a very large portion of their time packing lunches for children that don't have access to food. Many times the kid's parents are strung out on drugs or in prison. I am not always opposed to the argument of personal responsibility, but the kids shouldn't have to suffer for their parent's mistakes. It should be bi-partisan to have quality lunch programs in every school. I'm not sure to what extent Michelle Obama's program changed things, but if you want to get rid of it improve it. I don't understand the mentality of just getting rid of things. That only makes the problem worse.

ludin · May 13, 2017

Mac77 said:
Liberal kids - the ones not aborted by their liberal moms - may go hungry if mom decides to spend her limimited budget to get her nails done instead of buying food

But conservative moms will feed their kids whether the government funds a school lunch/breakfast/dinner program or not

This is so inaccurate I don't even know where to start.

ludin · May 13, 2017

RickJames3000 said:
If you took your time and thought before you posted, you'd realize that it was the local systems themselves that served those crappy lunches to the kids of their district.
And you want less government regulation?

That's an idiotic position.

Not sure what part of federal mandate you don't understand.

ludin · May 13, 2017

MrPeanut said:
My sister is an elementary school teacher here in WV, and my wife is part of a local community service group. They both spend a very large portion of their time packing lunches for children that don't have access to food. Many times the kid's parents are strung out on drugs or in prison. I am not always opposed to the argument of personal responsibility, but the kids shouldn't have to suffer for their parent's mistakes. It should be bi-partisan to have quality lunch programs in every school. I'm not sure to what extent Michelle Obama's program changed things, but if you want to get rid of it improve it. I don't understand the mentality of just getting rid of things. That only makes the problem worse.

If something isn't working and it is a pile of crap from the start you replace it.
Just like you can't fix Obamacare you can't fix obama lunch.

RickJames3000 · May 13, 2017

ludin said:
Not sure what part of federal mandate you don't understand.

That's funny.
Because I had no problem divining the many parts of this issue that elude your grasp.

RickJames3000 · May 13, 2017

ludin said:
Just like you can't fix Obamacare you can't fix obama lunch.

This sounds like something Trump's worst media surrogate would say.
Well done!

MTAtech · May 13, 2017

Mac77 said:
Liberal kids - the ones not aborted by their liberal moms - may go hungry if mom decides to spend her limimited (sic) budget to get her nails done instead of buying food

But conservative moms will feed their kids whether the government funds a school lunch/breakfast/dinner program or not

Who said this policy was directed at liberal parents? But thank you for your strawman.

Children of Appalachian Trump voters go hungry too. The nutrition programs that have been put in place are there for all low-income children. Michelle Obama cares about all children while Trump, if he cares about other people's children, only cares about the rich ones or the female ones that will grow to be rated "a ten."

Mac77 · May 13, 2017

MTAtech said:
Who said this policy was directed at liberal parents? But thank you for your strawman.

Children of Appalachian Trump voters go hungry too. The nutrition programs that have been put in place are there for all low-income children. Michelle Obama cares about all children while Trump, if he cares about other people's children, only cares about the rich ones or the female ones that will grow to be rated "a ten."

The problem with your argument is that trump voters would feed their kids with or without a federal school lunch program

And those kids would not grow up thinking government owes them something

Grand Mal · May 13, 2017

Mac77 said:
Liberal kids - the ones not aborted by their liberal moms - may go hungry if mom decides to spend her limimited budget to get her nails done instead of buying food

But conservative moms will feed their kids whether the government funds a school lunch/breakfast/dinner program or not

Is this about kids going hungry? 'Cuz that's not what I got out of it. What I got was that kids get fed crap food at school, and it needs to be improved. You know, good-for-you nutritious stuff like we grew up on but is just too much trouble for institutions to deal with.

Grand Mal · May 13, 2017

ludin said:
No the bigger question is what was she thinking in pushing that ridiculous policy. the typical liberal attitude I know better than you.

https://twitter.com/search?q=#thanksmichelleobama&lang=en&lang=en

if you want them to have a decent meal then let the local school system decide what is best for them.

Maybe because the local school system decides what's best for the local school system. Maybe because good-for-you nutritious food is too much trouble, too inconvenient to prepare when serving-sizes of frozen and prepared crap come in cases lots that require a minimum of handling.

MrPeanut · May 13, 2017

ludin said:
If something isn't working and it is a pile of crap from the start you replace it.
Just like you can't fix Obamacare you can't fix obama lunch.

Cutting is not replacing. It is just cutting.

Mac77 · May 13, 2017

Grand Mal said:
Is this about kids going hungry? 'Cuz that's not what I got out of it. What I got was that kids get fed crap food at school, and it needs to be improved. You know, good-for-you nutritious stuff like we grew up on but is just too much trouble for institutions to deal with.

I think the original intent of government funded school lunches was to feed hungry children

And when the feds started throwing free money at the schools they took it

And got used to

And now are hooked on it

But its not so free anymore because the educators and the children now have to dance for the money to music chosen by michelle obama

And they dont like it

jimbo · May 13, 2017

ludin said:
No the bigger question is what was she thinking in pushing that ridiculous policy. the typical liberal attitude I know better than you.

https://twitter.com/search?q=#thanksmichelleobama&lang=en&lang=en

if you want them to have a decent meal then let the local school system decide what is best for them.

Or better yet, the parents.

It amazes me that the schools are now supposed to be the ones to distribute social justice and and feed the kids, among other things, when do such a bad job in the readin', writin'. and 'rithmetic departments.

jimbo · May 13, 2017

Mac77 said:
I think the original intent of government funded school lunches was to feed hungry children

And when the feds started throwing free money at the schools they took it

And got used to

And now are hooked on it

But its not so free anymore because the educators and the children now have to dance for the money to music chosen by michelle obama

And they dont like it

I went to school both before and after the school provided lunch program was in effect. At least part of the reason for the program was we got ourselves to school and walked home for lunch. For some, the walk was over a mile, rain or snow. It did solve that problem. Mom's returning to the workplace was another reason.

Food was just as bad then as now. We lived 4 blocks from school. We went home for lunch. Mom's hot potato soup and fresh sandwiches won out every time.

MTAtech · May 13, 2017

Mac77 said:
The problem with your argument is that trump voters would feed their kids with or without a federal school lunch program

And those kids would not grow up thinking government owes them something

Another one of your posts in which you confuse what you think with what are the facts. You think it, so it must be so isn't how the world runs.

The facts are that there are many Trump voters who are poor and you have no idea if they have trouble providing their children with nutritious breakfasts and lunches. We also know that many of those same Trump voters benefit from Medicare and Social Security when they get old and benefited from expanded Medicaid under Obamacare. What those children may grow up knowing is that government programs can make their lives better. If they're smart they'll learn that Republicans want to take away the programs that make their lives better.

Mac77 · May 13, 2017

jimbo said:
I went to school both before and after the school provided lunch program was in effect. At least part of the reason for the program was we got ourselves to school and walked home for lunch. For some, the walk was over a mile, rain or snow. It did solve that problem. Mom's returning to the workplace was another reason.

Food was just as bad then as now. We lived 4 blocks from school. We went home for lunch. Mom's hot potato soup and fresh sandwiches won out every time.

I grew up on sack lunches at school

It eas rare for me to go throgh the serving line

RickJames3000 · May 13, 2017

jimbo said:
Or better yet, the parents.

It amazes me that the schools are now supposed to be the ones to distribute social justice and and feed the kids, among other things, when do such a bad job in the readin', writin'. and 'rithmetic departments.

That may explain what happened to you... but there are a wide variety of public schools, ranging from excellent to poor.
Sorry you drew the short straw... but you shouldn't generalize based upon your own limited experience.

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