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Did you pay your $12K?

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Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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If you include social security and medicare, then I paid a little more than $12k. My wife paid less. And my kids paid absolutely nothing, so as a family we're way behind.
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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mine, my wifes, and a bunch more....

lets suffice it to say i paid well over what i consider my fair share
 
molten_dragon said:
If you include social security and medicare, then I paid a little more than $12k. My wife paid less. And my kids paid absolutely nothing, so as a family we're way behind.
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You can't include social security and medicare. They are insurance policies, not taxes.
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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My wife and I together did pay our 24k.
 
I got a good (bad?) bonus this year, so....I paid that and more. However, not enough to cover 12k per family member.
 
molten_dragon said:
If you include social security and medicare, then I paid a little more than $12k. My wife paid less. And my kids paid absolutely nothing, so as a family we're way behind.
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You kids need to pick up the slack, get to work.
 
I didn't think our nation adopted a rule or law that said we all pay the same? I only made $9600 last year it'd be hard for me to pay $12,000.
 
Moderate Right said:
You can't include social security and medicare. They are insurance policies, not taxes.
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The original question included social security and medicare expenses by the feds. Why would you not include them in the payments answer?
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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Paid way more than that. You gd freeloaders!
 
Not only paid my 12k, but apparently several other people's. Not a thank you note from any of them.
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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Of course that wouldn't be the definition of fair. Fair would be based on a % of income or wealth, not a flat net amount. You also included children and other non-money makers.
 
Oh gosh yes.

And thanks to my son being employed last year, I lost my head of household status. What a creep.:lamo

He is back full time at school, thank goodness.:lamo
 
Moderate Right said:
You can't include social security and medicare. They are insurance policies, not taxes.
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Social security and medicare expenditures make up about half of the $4 trillion OP mentioned. So if those aren't included, each person's share is only $6,000.
 
Wheelgun said:
I didn't think our nation adopted a rule or law that said we all pay the same? I only made $9600 last year it'd be hard for me to pay $12,000.
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Why would it be hard for you? The government CONSTANTLY pays more than it makes so everyone else should too.
 
molten_dragon said:
Social security and medicare expenditures make up about half of the $4 trillion OP mentioned. So if those aren't included, each person's share is only $6,000.
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Then I paid way more than my share.
 
natsb said:
Not only paid my 12k, but apparently several other people's. Not a thank you note from any of them.
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Right? They could at least send us some cookies or something. :)
 
I paid them with a smile. But they demanded money!

My accountant does mine and I sign in the blind. I don't care. I can't change it, and why ruin a perfectly good day?!
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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Interesting theory, except that 324 million people are not taxpayers. The tax base is about 1/2 of that.... so the boggie is closer to $25K (FICA and FIT)
 
upsideguy said:
Interesting theory, except that 324 million people are not taxpayers. The tax base is about 1/2 of that.... so the boggie is closer to $25K (FICA and FIT)
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Oh, it's much worse then that. Roughly 45% of those with taxable income actually pay ZERO in federal income taxes.
 
Nuber said:
Please note all numbers are rounded for ease of discussion.

2016 Federal expenditures were about $4 trillion dollars.

2016 estimates for USA population are 325 million people.

In order to be fair, everyone in the US should have paid the feds about $12K in 2016.

Did you pay your $12K?
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No I did not pay 12K this year in taxes.
I am retired but I still paid my fair share.
And while we are at it, I have never cost the federal government a dime my entire life. Not an unemployment check, no welfare or food stamps. No Medicaid, and no grants for education etc..... I did it the old fashion way, I earned it so as far as the 12K the government thinks I should be on the hook for, well.....they can stick it where the sun don't shine.
 
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