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Trump Agenda Issue One; Obamacare.

Moderate Right said:
We're talking tens of thousands of jobs, maybe even hundreds of thousands.
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Again, who says those people would lose their jobs? Just as much administration would be required for Medicare to take on all the formerly enrollees. The only ones out of a job would be the top executives (who will get golden parachutes anyway), and the PR and marketing teams (who can easily find work in other industries...advertising is universal). There's no reason to believe that going to a single-payer system will cause hundreds of thousands of people to lose their jobs. Again, if you had any idea what an insurance company actually does, you wouldn't make this rather flimsy argument.
 
Incisor said:
Again, who says those people would lose their jobs? Just as much administration would be required for Medicare to take on all the formerly enrollees. The only ones out of a job would be the top executives (who will get golden parachutes anyway), and the PR and marketing teams (who can easily find work in other industries...advertising is universal). There's no reason to believe that going to a single-payer system will cause hundreds of thousands of people to lose their jobs. Again, if you had any idea what an insurance company actually does, you wouldn't make this rather flimsy argument.
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If you had any idea of what reality is you would understand much more than the fantasy world in which you live.
 
Moderate Right said:
If you had any idea of what reality is you would understand much more than the fantasy world in which you live.
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Well, we know the right lives in a world of "alternative facts". So when it comes to reality, you guys are the ones who are detached from it.
 
Incisor said:
Well, we know the right lives in a world of "alternative facts". So when it comes to reality, you guys are the ones who are detached from it.
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Answer this question: who won the election?
 
Moderate Right said:
Answer this question: who won the election?
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Trump won the electoral college despite losing by more than 2,000,000 votes in the popular vote.

But Trump won the electoral college more than 3 months ago. What about today's reality? You're starting to sound like Al "I once scored four TDs in a single high school football game 35 years ago" Bundy.
 
Incisor said:
Trump won the electoral college despite losing by more than 2,000,000 votes in the popular vote.

But Trump won the electoral college more than 3 months ago. What about today's reality? You're starting to sound like Al "I once scored four TDs in a single high school football game 35 years ago" Bundy.
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You must have your years mixed up. Trump has only been president for one month. He can't work miracles in one month.
 
Moderate Right said:
You must have your years mixed up. Trump has only been president for one month. He can't work miracles in one month.
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Miracles no, disasters based on lies and lies based on disasters yes .
 
Moderate Right said:
You must have your years mixed up. Trump has only been president for one month. He can't work miracles in one month.
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We already know the results of their economic philosophy giving more money to the rich. If the President is serious he's going to be paying 33% when he gets out or else what have you? Just another dreamer who couldn't accomplish his call for change.

This is because he has crazy things on his agenda like putting lawyers and doctors in charge of a woman's health instead of herself. What else is crazy? Deporting non-violent offenders? What else? His cabinet has crazy ideas like prohibition.
 
Exquisitor said:
We already know the results of their economic philosophy giving more money to the rich. If the President is serious he's going to be paying 33% when he gets out or else what have you? Just another dreamer who couldn't accomplish his call for change.

This is because he has crazy things on his agenda like putting lawyers and doctors in charge of a woman's health instead of herself. What else is crazy? Deporting non-violent offenders? What else? His cabinet has crazy ideas like prohibition.
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Those are all just liberal talking points.
 
Moderate Right said:
Those are all just liberal talking points.
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You don't think the President should make it so that he has to pay taxes?

Give money to the rich, a few give more in Charity, a few put it into jobs, more spend it on luxurious items and the most put it where it's going to give them the greatest return; meaning, with the money you give them they're going to use it to demand and extract more money from the economy.

So our philosophers in Congress postulate that you give everybody big tax cut so the few job creators do it for you.

As a CEO and job creator what does my paycheck have to do with my hiring? If I have more work or business is good, I will hire more employees, but this is all paid for by the company, how does holding the deed to a stock make me a job creator?

Republicans gutted Obamacare, why is no one else articulating this?
 
Exquisitor said:
You don't think the President should make it so that he has to pay taxes?

Give money to the rich, a few give more in Charity, a few put it into jobs, more spend it on luxurious items and the most put it where it's going to give them the greatest return; meaning, with the money you give them they're going to use it to demand and extract more money from the economy.

So our philosophers in Congress postulate that you give everybody big tax cut so the few job creators do it for you.

As a CEO and job creator what does my paycheck have to do with my hiring? If I have more work or business is good, I will hire more employees, but this is all paid for by the company, how does holding the deed to a stock make me a job creator?

Republicans gutted Obamacare, why is no one else articulating this?
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Trump has paid millions and millions in not only federal income taxes but other kinds of taxes as well. He had huge business losses on his Casinos, which allowed him to write off about 20 years of federal income taxes. What he paid before that point makes your contributions look like an atom in the ocean. There are many businesses that were legally able to deduct business losses. Every American and business tries to legally pay as few taxes as possible. I have never heard of anyone who tries to pay more than they have to. Trump is no different.
 
Moderate Right said:
Trump has paid millions and millions in not only federal income taxes but other kinds of taxes as well. He had huge business losses on his Casinos, which allowed him to write off about 20 years of federal income taxes. What he paid before that point makes your contributions look like an atom in the ocean. There are many businesses that were legally able to deduct business losses. Every American and business tries to legally pay as few taxes as possible. I have never heard of anyone who tries to pay more than they have to. Trump is no different.
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Very good, but if everyone in the Presiden''s shoes economically were to like, pay then the President would have all that money at his disposal to save and pay the debt and since you demand Republican now we have so we should all pay up cheerily.

You're right though, so let's see how things progress.
 
Looks like the US is going back to Subsidized Emergency Room Care.
 
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