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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    in commerce all conservatives do. Imagine if each state required its own kind of car. Now you understand what went wrong with health care. isn't learning the best?

    Yeah no.. .

    You just went against the conservative argument against obamacare.. and went with the liberal argument of the commerce clause giving the federal government the right to trump states rights.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Yeah no.. .

    You just went against the conservative argument against obamacare.
    conservatives are for capitalism and free trade so naturally oppose Obamacare which is socialist/communist meaning it is heavily controlled through govt rules enforced at gun point if necessary.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    and went with the liberal argument of the commerce clause giving the federal government the right to trump states rights.
    Conservatives are for free trade among states and nations in cars and healthcare since the more competition you have the better the quality and price of goods and services. Conservatives do not want to exercise states rights in regard to cars and health care since it would increase price and decrease quality of goods and services.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    Conservatives are for free trade among states and nations in cars and healthcare since the more competition you have the better the quality and price of goods and services. Conservatives do not want to exercise states rights in regard to cars and health care since it would increase price and decrease quality of goods and services.
    so in other words.. you are against state rights if they do something you don't like.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    so in other words.. you are against state rights if they do something you don't like.
    Republicans are against the aspect of states rights that would turn every state into a separate market with fewer competitors, fewer products, lower quality products, and higher prices. McCarran Furguson did this in health care and we pay 3 times more than anybody else for health care. Its very very stupid but its what liberals support. Hope you understand now?

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    .

    You just went against the conservative argument against obamacare..
    conservative argument against Obamacare is that its socialist which means way too much federal and state govt intervention and way too little capitalism.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the liberal argument of the commerce clause giving the federal government the right to trump states rights.
    what? the commerce clause had nothing to do with health care conservatives would argue. They would want national capitalism in all industries. Liberals would argue the commerce clause gives them the right to manage anything remotely like a business

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    conservatives are for capitalism and free trade so naturally oppose Obamacare which is socialist/communist meaning it is heavily controlled through govt rules enforced at gun point if necessary.
    your flip flop is noted.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    what? the commerce clause had nothing to do with health care conservatives would argue. They would want national capitalism in all industries. Liberals would argue the commerce clause gives them the right to manage anything remotely like a business
    Actually the commerce clause is what was argued and accepted by the court as the reason that Obamacare was constitutional.

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    Re: Among Developed Nations American Tax Bills are Below Average

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Actually the commerce clause is what was argued and accepted by the court as the reason that Obamacare was constitutional.
    and????????????Chief Justice John Roberts’ majority decision today upholding the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act makes a number of very important points. First, Roberts completely rejected the Obama administration’s unprecedented argument that the individual mandate was constitutional under Congress’ power “to regulate commerce...among the several states.” As Roberts wrote:

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