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Limits to government interference

Ignatius said:
Yes I know it's a fact and its a fact the govt is overreaching put people just roll over like a dog I heat.

So the string continues
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No that is an opinion
 
Ignatius said:
No it's a fact that no one yet had been able to explain where anyone had a "right" to my labor. You're just another in a long line.
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Thank you for your opinion
 
Ignatius said:
You're welcome. Don't feel bad people smarter than you can't explain where they get a "right" to my labor either.
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So you really don’t think you should pay any taxes ever?
 
Ignatius said:
Where did I say that?
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Taxes are just people thinking they have a "right" to your labor, and using government to force you to pay up. You think we should stop?
 
Ignatius said:
You're welcome. Don't feel bad people smarter than you can't explain where they get a "right" to my labor either.
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Actually I did already. You just dont like it. Try to open a business and deny business to gays and get back to me. Lol
 
ataraxia said:
Taxes are just people thinking they have a "right" to your labor, and using government to force you to pay up. You think we should stop?
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They have a right based on 2 principles. One, my consent and two, what they are taking the money for is legitimate. The constitution greatly limits what the govt should be allowed to do but we have allowed the govt way too,much leeway in that regard. We pay through taxes for things the govt has no authority to be doing.
 
Ignatius said:
They have a right based on 2 principles. One, my consent and two, what they are taking the money for is legitimate. The constitution greatly limits what the govt should be allowed to do but we have allowed the govt way too,much leeway in that regard. We pay through taxes for things the govt has no authority to be doing.
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In your opinion
 
vegas giants said:
Actually I did already. You just dont like it. Try to open a business and deny business to gays and get back to me. Lol
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That describes the consequence of govt overreach it doesn't explain why gays or anyone has a right to my labor. Being in public is an answe but it's an asinine one.
 
vegas giants said:
In your opinion
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Thats the basis of any moral and just relationship where one party has the power of force behind it and One doesn't. Its amazing how you roll over for govt control of your life. Its sad really. And it's my opinion that you are sad
 
Ignatius said:
They have a right based on 2 principles. One, my consent and two, what they are taking the money for is legitimate. The constitution greatly limits what the govt should be allowed to do but we have allowed the govt way too,much leeway in that regard. We pay through taxes for things the govt has no authority to be doing.
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But who decides what is legitimate? Do you just get to decide personally what you want to pay Government to do?
 
ataraxia said:
But who decides what is legitimate? Do you just get to decide personally what you want to pay Government to do?
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The constitution does!!! That's why it was written!!! WTF?! Really??!!
 
Ignatius said:
That describes the consequence of govt overreach it doesn't explain why gays or anyone has a right to my labor. Being in public is an answe but it's an asinine one.
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It's only over reach in your opinion. You could try to elect politicians that will repeal our anti discrimination laws



Good luck
 
Ignatius said:
The constitution does!!! That's why it was written!!! WTF?! Really??!!
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The constitution says nothing about an Air Force. I don’t want to pay for the new F-35. Can I refuse to pay my taxes?
 
Ignatius said:
Thats the basis of any moral and just relationship where one party has the power of force behind it and One doesn't. Its amazing how you roll over for govt control of your life. Its sad really. And it's my opinion that you are sad
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It would seem that trump and all the Republicans roll over as well.


Which one has introduced a bill to repeal our anti discrimination laws?
 
ataraxia said:
The constitution says nothing about an Air Force. I don’t want to pay for the new F-35. Can I refuse to pay my taxes?
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It's an expressed job of the govt to protect its citizens from foreign enemies but if you want to get rid of the air force fine with me.
 
vegas giants said:
It would seem that trump and all the Republicans roll over as well.


Which one has introduced a bill to repeal our anti discrimination laws?
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You and I are in agreement that repubs have been infected with leftism. They would prefer to be popular like the leftists have have lost their values. They are essentially what liberals used to be and now send are raging leftist morons.
 
Ignatius said:
You and I are in agreement that repubs have been infected with leftism. They would prefer to be popular like the leftists have have lost their values. They are essentially what liberals used to be and now send are raging leftist morons.
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So basically you have no one in government that represents you.


You really need that luck. Lol
 
Ignatius said:
Are there limits to how much the govt can interfere with businesses? I think the question rests on who owns the fruits of our labor?
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Government is not free unlike Ten simple Commandments from a God. The legislature is delegated the social Power not the social right to Tax to ensure the general Government can ensure a republican form of Government to each of the several States.

Better solutions at lower cost is what we should expect from alleged Capitalists.
 
danielpalos said:
Government is not free unlike Ten simple Commandments from a God. The legislature is delegated the social Power not the social right to Tax to ensure the general Government can ensure a republican form of Government to each of the several States.

Better solutions at lower cost is what we should expect from alleged Capitalists.
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The problem there are to many politicians on both sides of the aisle who benefit from an expanding govt. Any govt large enough to give you everything you want us bug enough to take away everything you have.

The absolute LAST thing that dems want is less govt
 
Ignatius said:
It's an expressed job of the govt to protect its citizens from foreign enemies but if you want to get rid of the air force fine with me.
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If I don't see it expressly delineated in the Constitution, I don't have to pay for it. If you want to pay for it, it's a free country, go ahead. That's what freedom is all about.

But that doesn't seem to be fine with the government. They FORCE me to pay for it because of THEIR interpretation of what it means to protect its citizens. I don't think the F-35 is protecting me. Why is that OK for government to tyrannize me that way?
 
Ignatius said:
The problem there are to many politicians on both sides of the aisle who benefit from an expanding govt. Any govt large enough to give you everything you want us bug enough to take away everything you have.

The absolute LAST thing that dems want is less govt
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ataraxia said:
If I don't see it expressly delineated in the Constitution, I don't have to pay for it. If you want to pay for it, it's a free country, go ahead. That's what freedom is all about.

But that doesn't seem to be fine with the government. They FORCE me to pay for it because of THEIR interpretation of what it means to protect its citizens. I don't think the F-35 is protecting me. Why is that OK for government to tyrannize me that way?
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You can rail all you like I don't disagree entirely. The point is as long as we blindly allow the govt to do as it pleases they will continue to take more and more of our freedoms.
The govt also has no authority to teach our kids or run departments of education, energy, transportation and the list goes no but fools just roll over for more abuse.
 
Ignatius said:
The problem there are to many politicians on both sides of the aisle who benefit from an expanding govt. Any govt large enough to give you everything you want us bug enough to take away everything you have.

The absolute LAST thing that dems want is less govt
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Better solutions at lower cost is what Good capitalists are about.
 
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