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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    Anything not "defective" is not "evolution"
    So that sentence doesnt make any sense.

    Aborting defective offspring would have no effect on evolution, however if defective offspring are born, they have a much lower rate of surviving and thus, reproducig...so ALSO having no effect on evolution. Same result either way.

    Is that, somehow, someway, what you were trying to say? If so, then saying aborting offspring was hamstringing evolution would be inaccurate. Hamstringing means hampering, slowing, interfering with.


    This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

    That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

    It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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    Social distancing has nothing to do with preventing pandemic casualties.
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    Why try to prove things when science has never even tried to prove anything?
    RE: Italy's mortality rate
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    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So that sentence doesnt make any sense.

    Aborting defective offspring would have no effect on evolution, however if defective offspring are born, they have a much lower rate of surviving and thus, reproducig...so ALSO having no effect on evolution. Same result either way.

    Is that, somehow, someway, what you were trying to say? If so, then saying aborting offspring was hamstringing evolution would be inaccurate. Hamstringing means hampering, slowing, interfering with.
    If we kill off spring that are less than typical then there can be no evolution. That monkeys didn't abort their defective children with no tails is why you don't have one today.

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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    If we kill off spring that are less than typical then there can be no evolution. That monkeys didn't abort their defective children with no tails is why you don't have one today.
    Wow. So wrong. In so many ways.

    Just wow. There are no words....and apparently a failure in the past of the public school science curriculum.

    That would truly be sig-worthy if my sig quota wasnt already full.




    This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

    That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

    It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
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    Social distancing has nothing to do with preventing pandemic casualties.
    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Why try to prove things when science has never even tried to prove anything?
    RE: Italy's mortality rate
    Quote Originally Posted by Luther View Post
    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Wow. So wrong. In so many ways.

    Just wow. There are no words....and apparently a failure in the past of the public school science curriculum.

    That would truly be sig-worthy if my sig quota wasnt already full.
    That you don't actually have an argument is noted.

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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    That you don't actually have an argument is noted.
    I cant argue with nonsense. Your post came across as like something from a 4th grader, not as actual science:

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    If we kill off spring that are less than typical then there can be no evolution. That monkeys didn't abort their defective children with no tails is why you don't have one today.

    Do you have a specific question or point you'd like to argue? If so, please try and articulate it.






    This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

    That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

    It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Social distancing has nothing to do with preventing pandemic casualties.
    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Why try to prove things when science has never even tried to prove anything?
    RE: Italy's mortality rate
    Quote Originally Posted by Luther View Post
    Perhaps it because their population is so old(their own doing)?

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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by jwzg View Post
    What's the source of your info? Not saying it isn't true, but I'm interested for the sake of knowledge. Same with Waddy. I might believe that urban kids are exposed to more bacteria but rural kids are exposed to a wider variety, but that hypothesis likely has some holes too.

    I thought the gif was pretty much on point.

    EDIT: A little reasearch - Rural and urban microbiota
    How could they be exposed to a wider variety, when urban areas have more travel???

    Sure the kid playing in the swamp in Louisiana is exposed to all kinda stuff, but a urban person is exposed to a whole world full of bacteria..

    The Nigerian from 2 doors down’s brother is visiting.. a new family just immigrated from Serbia around the block...

    Then you have the constant influx of goods from all around the world....


    Ever hear that the human stomach is the most populated place on earth, and our mouths are dirtier than a dogs???

    That is because humans are super dirty micro organism wise, so the more people the more bacteria..


    The turtles in the LA swamp did not just get back from vacationing in China. The guy next door in the city did.


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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtemisBarca View Post
    How could they be exposed to a wider variety, when urban areas have more travel???

    Sure the kid playing in the swamp in Louisiana is exposed to all kinda stuff, but a urban person is exposed to a whole world full of bacteria..

    The Nigerian from 2 doors down’s brother is visiting.. a new family just immigrated from Serbia around the block...

    Then you have the constant influx of goods from all around the world....


    Ever hear that the human stomach is the most populated place on earth, and our mouths are dirtier than a dogs???

    That is because humans are super dirty micro organism wise, so the more people the more bacteria..


    The turtles in the LA swamp did not just get back from vacationing in China. The guy next door in the city did.


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    Re: Are we hamstringing evolution by hiding from viruses???

    Quote Originally Posted by ArtemisBarca View Post
    A) concerning egg cells,

    “Are female babies born with eggs? Yes, female babies are born with all the egg cells they're ever going to have. No new egg cells are made during your lifetime.”


    How Many Eggs Does a Woman Have? At Birth, Age 30, 40, More

    It might not make sense to either one of us, but it is still true lol..

    So zero way for the mothers immune systems to update her eggs..

    As I stated you get that half from your grandmother.. not mom.

    B) I am doing neither , pushing to kill disabled people or talking about parenting skills..

    No one asked me before they decided not to let people with sever mental retardation breed..

    Honestly , I have not been asked for permission for any law passed sadly.. hehe.

    That was just an example of “eugenics” that relatively everyone is cool with.

    The only people who think Down syndrome people should be intentionally having kids that will almost certainly have Down’s syndrome and will not be able to care for them.. are people who don’t think they will have to clean up the mess..


    I have never seen a parent of a Down syndrome adult push for them to have kids.. I have seen oodles who restrict their adult child from having sex though... like basically all of them..


    C) this is purely a scientific question that will not actually effect the species for eons...ish.


    But we are absolutely turning evolution on its head.. well or stopping it in it’s tracks..

    Could a gene even touch the whole species now that we are so populated?!?!


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    I have not had a chance to respond. There are a lot of things you seem to have read on the internet I suppose. One is about I think what you are referring to as "eggs". I trust you are aware some women can be born with absolutely no what you call "eggs". As for their exact number it starts in each woman at a supposed total number then diminishes.

    However what you think of as "eggs" technically without being fertilized are cells. The number of them in each female human body does not necessarily dictate how fertile the woman is. Many factors are involved.

    I think you are referring to oocytes. I suppose if you must call them an egg but they aren't quite. No problem it took me awhile to get back to this.
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