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The new right wing and their opinion on protecting gun ownership.

Fledermaus said:
Gun grabbers are fixated on the genitals of those who dare own a firearm.
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Yeah, you can call everyong who disagrees with your hobby, or whatever drives your need to stock arms.
But you are now out-voted because a majority of Americans have had enough murder, mayhem and gun lobbying.
Will you respect a democratic majority? Or are you planning to head to your state capital armed?

Gun control support surges in polls - POLITICO
 
dcaraz said:
You are now out-voted because a majority of Americans have had enough murder, mayhem and gun lobbying.
Gun control support surges in polls - POLITICO
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every time there is an attempt, federally, to ban or limit guns, the gun banners claim most people support such nonsense. They never tell us what the questions were but I know that in 1994, Clinton's allies claimed America supported his unconstitutional gun ban. Well in November 1994, the Democrat party suffered its worst congressional election in over 40 years, and Bill Clinton admitted his gun ban caused that.

Constitutional rights are not subject to the whims of an uneducated or low IQ majority.
 
Fledermaus said:
You have a "right" to not be offended?

Since when?
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For some reason you haven't understood this entire exchange. The OP was rather clear. And my support for the position that folks who gather in public spaces to express their anger
at their elected officials SHOULD LEAVE THEIR DAMN GUNS AT HOME. The encounter in Michigan is offensive to many citizens who see the mentally ill reality in the numbers of gun deaths.
Just because you think it's fine does not make MY sentiments less important.
Why don't you lobby for LESS DEATH?

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive gun collections,
especially semi automatic military weapons which are not required for hunting.

Gun control support surges in polls - POLITICO
 
TurtleDude said:
every time there is an attempt, federally, to ban or limit guns, the gun banners claim most people support such nonsense. They never tell us what the questions were but I know that in 1994, Clinton's allies claimed America supported his unconstitutional gun ban. Well in November 1994, the Democrat party suffered its worst congressional election in over 40 years, and Bill Clinton admitted his gun ban caused that.

Constitutional rights are not subject to the whims of an uneducated or low IQ majority.
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Nothing low IQ about the gun death rate America is saddled with because of the minority who see gun ownership as their primary reason to live.
But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive collections of automatic weapons that have nothing to do with hunting.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
 
dcaraz said:
Nothing low IQ about the gun death rate America is saddled with because of the minority who see gun ownership as their primary reason to live.
But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive collections of automatic weapons that have nothing to do with hunting.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
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like it or not-we have a constitutional right. and we aren't going to give it up to placate those who pretend that gun control will prevent violent crime.
 
dcaraz said:
For some reason you haven't understood this entire exchange. The OP was rather clear. And my support for the position that folks who gather in public spaces to express their anger
at their elected officials SHOULD LEAVE THEIR DAMN GUNS AT HOME. The encounter in Michigan is offensive to many citizens who see the mentally ill reality in the numbers of gun deaths.
Just because you think it's fine does not make MY sentiments less important.
Why don't you lobby for LESS DEATH?

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive gun collections,
especially semi automatic military weapons which are not required for hunting.

Gun control support surges in polls - POLITICO
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So you are offended someone brought their guns...

As to "less death"?

There cant be less than what we saw at the protests.... Right?

And what "semi automatic military weapons" are you talking about?

The M-1 carbine and the M-1 Garand?

Both of which were war surplus from the US government?

There have been "semi automatic military weapons" in the hands of Americans for decades before the M-16 wannabe craze...
 
Fledermaus said:
So you are offended someone brought their guns...

As to "less death"?

There cant be less than what we saw at the protests.... Right?

And what "semi automatic military weapons" are you talking about?

The M-1 carbine and the M-1 Garand?

Both of which were war surplus from the US government?

There have been "semi automatic military weapons" in the hands of Americans for decades before the M-16 wannabe craze...
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for years, from the fifties (at least) until Bill Clinton privatized it, the US Government's Department of Civilian Marksmanship, sold US Citizens military rifles including hundreds of thousands of Springfield bolt action rifles and semi auto MI Garands, MI carbines and 1911 Colt pattern pistols. I have several DCM Garands-some are arsenal rebuilds, one is apparently as it was issued (though worn) and two were fitted with new stocks and Krieger barrels. The MI carbines are mainly Inland (most common) but I have a Winchester and a Saginaw though it has an Inland barrel on it.
 
dcaraz said:
Nothing low IQ about the gun death rate America is saddled with because of the minority who see gun ownership as their primary reason to live.
But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive collections of automatic weapons that have nothing to do with hunting.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
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The biggest threat to the second is the right wing and the NRA for many reasons but the one that stand out the most, is that people are just getting sick of listening to their ugly group. The people with the least knowledge of the 2nd amendment are these bang bang boys that define the 2nd to align themselves in a group of nonintellectual self righteous mental cases.Wacko world.
 
jbander said:
The biggest threat to the second is the right wing and the NRA for many reasons but the one that stand out the most, is that people are just getting sick of listening to their ugly group. The people with the least knowledge of the 2nd amendment are these bang bang boys that define the 2nd to align themselves in a group of nonintellectual self righteous mental cases.Wacko world.
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The NRA is the group supporting and defending 2nd Amendment rights.

Your rant is off target and missed by a country mile.

But please do carry on...

Hyperbolic rants that make no sense are good to laugh at.
 
jbander said:
The biggest threat to the second is the right wing and the NRA for many reasons but the one that stand out the most, is that people are just getting sick of listening to their ugly group. The people with the least knowledge of the 2nd amendment are these bang bang boys that define the 2nd to align themselves in a group of nonintellectual self righteous mental cases.Wacko world.
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That’s why AR15’s are flying off the shelves. Because people are sick of listening to them [emoji1787]
 
jbander said:
It's garbage, I want my government to make sure the Nazi's in this country don't have guns and I want them to make sure Idiots and mental cases don't have guns and knowing what drives the right , that's what they are arguing about. They are looking in the mirror and saying my ugly opinions should be armed and ready to kill you if you don't like it. I define the constitution not the courts. So screw the left. I personally support the 2nd but hate the NRA and these Nazi wannabees with their flag waving bull**** on keeping there arsenals. How dumb are these flag waving gun people , they have 20 guns and one trigger finger , now that is dumb.
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Who are you to say what "Nazi wannabees" are?
 
dcaraz said:
Nothing low IQ about the gun death rate America is saddled with because of the minority who see gun ownership as their primary reason to live.
But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive collections of automatic weapons that have nothing to do with hunting.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
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Massive collections of automatic weapons? How many automatic weapons did you see at the Wisconsin protest?
 
dcaraz said:
Nothing low IQ about the gun death rate America is saddled with because of the minority who see gun ownership as their primary reason to live.
But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive collections of automatic weapons that have nothing to do with hunting.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
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Of course automatic weapons have nothing to do with hunting. What kind of idiot would think they did?
 
Fledermaus said:
Make up your mind...

One moment you are ignorantly calling libertarians wannbe Nazis the next moment you are calling libertarians anarchists....

Two completely different concepts. Two extremes. Neither is libertarian.
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I don't like the idea of having to explain this, but jbander is just doing what a number of the left leaning posters are doing.

Putting associations onto one label and switching it up to fit a narrative.

It's jbander's sarcasm, just with very little outward context.
 
Aberration said:
Of course automatic weapons have nothing to do with hunting. What kind of idiot would think they did?
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The idiot bang bang people think they do, they bring up varmint hunting as the reason to own them all the time. That's the reason these people have five of these guns and a ton of ammo for them. yuck yuck!
 
jbander said:
The idiot bang bang people think they do, they bring up varmint hunting as the reason to own them all the time. That's the reason these people have five of these guns and a ton of ammo for them. yuck yuck!
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When did ANY pro gun people suggest Varmint shooting was a reason for AUTOMATIC weapons?
 
dcaraz said:
For some reason you haven't understood this entire exchange. The OP was rather clear. And my support for the position that folks who gather in public spaces to express their anger
at their elected officials SHOULD LEAVE THEIR DAMN GUNS AT HOME. The encounter in Michigan is offensive to many citizens who see the mentally ill reality in the numbers of gun deaths.
Just because you think it's fine does not make MY sentiments less important.
Why don't you lobby for LESS DEATH?

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

But understand that a majority of your fellow Americans do not support anyone's right to accumulate massive gun collections,
especially semi automatic military weapons which are not required for hunting.

Gun control support surges in polls - POLITICO
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The second amendment isn't about hunting.
 
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