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    Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Isn't single payer government medical care working out just great for the Chinese and Italians? We do have working models to compare to now, don't we?
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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    It wouldn't matter what kind of health system a country has if it gets overwhelmed with infected people. The same thing that happened in Italy could happen in the US, too.

    Our hospitals don't have the capacity to handle this kind of outbreak and isolation seems to be the only way to keep the curve down.

    Here's the 'flattening of the curve' that everyone is talking about....

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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Yes, what we need is a lot of uninsured people in a country when an infectious epidemic like this hits.
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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    This thread didn't age well. Both countries are now over the worst and beginning to open up, while in the USA, infections are still climbing.
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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Isn't single payer government medical care working out just great for the Chinese and Italians? We do have working models to compare to now, don't we?
    hehe...yes...yes we do.
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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
    Yes, what we need is a lot of uninsured people in a country when an infectious epidemic like this hits.
    Insurance doesn’t protect you from being infected.

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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Speaking as an Australian, I'll never understand why Americans (I'm one of those also), are actually against single payer. Americans seem to actually buy all the propaganda that the Insurance Industry pumps out. (You have to wait sooo long..Total bull)
    Is Australian health care perfect? Nope, not at all but living in both countries truly shows which one is worth the money. Keep in mind that if your're wealthy (I'm not), one can get the best care here in the USA or anywhere else. For the rest of us? No way.

    Had an operation 7 years ago in Australia. Cancer. Was only the size of a quarter on my liver. Had to wait 5 days after the diagnoses. Was in the hospital for 7 days. Total bill for Doctors, Surgeons was a big fat zero. Again, it's not perfect across the ocean but American health care is way overpriced.
    I feel so much better now since I've completely given up all hope.

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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It wouldn't matter what kind of health system a country has if it gets overwhelmed with infected people. The same thing that happened in Italy could happen in the US, too.

    Our hospitals don't have the capacity to handle this kind of outbreak and isolation seems to be the only way to keep the curve down.

    Here's the 'flattening of the curve' that everyone is talking about....

    You are missing the point. In a government run single payer system, where the government decides how many doctors, nurses, high tech diagnostic equipment, hospital beds, clinics, etc are needed, a pandemic is absolutely going to overwhelm the healthcare system. Only what the government bean counters allow is built. In a profit driven system like in the US, much more is available. It's much less likely to be overwhelmed. Italy for instance quickly got to the point where anyone over the age of 60 was denied a ventilator. Over 60 is the most vulnerable group to Covid 19. That did not happen in the US. We had enough doctors, nurses, hospital beds, and were able to quickly crank up production on the ventilators and PPE.
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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdeltoid View Post
    Insurance doesn’t protect you from being infected.
    no, but it makes it much more likely that you will get treated if you do.

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    Re: Hey China and Italy, how's single payer government medical care working out for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraD View Post
    no, but it makes it much more likely that you will get treated if you do.
    Which part of "All Covid patients would be treated and any insurance copayments will be waived", do you not understand? There is not a covid 19 patient anywhere in the country that is being denied treatment.
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